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Old 02.11.2006, 12:41
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Work Permit for UK Citizen

Hi

Apolgies in Advance if I am going over Old Ground!

I am A UK citizen who is currently in Zurich on a 120 Day Permit.

I am currently employed and paid by a UK Company in sterling and pay UK Taxes but am covering for a Swiss company who's only employee resigned so I am the only person here.

I am looking to move permanantly to Switzerland (Zurich) and get the relevant permit, my longer term plan assuming everything works out is to eventually apply for citizenship.

I've been told I need to apply for either an L or B permit and to do this i require a local contract it sounds like B is the best option but there may be some limit on the amount that are ussued and if this is the case to get a B i would need to wait to January?(what are the downsides with an L) I also note that there is some rule chage from May next year for European citizens? does this mean that I will no longer require a work/residency permit?

The last question is approximately what percentage of my gross income will i take home at the end of each month, so that I can compare take home pay to what I would have received in the UK?

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Old 02.11.2006, 12:44
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Re: Work Permit for UK Citizen

tax here is lower than the UK but you will be taxed higher on a L or B permit as opposed to a C (but not that much more).

May next year means the abolition of quotas for B permits for EU people. You'd not get a B now as quotas are more than likely exhausted.

Why would you want to apply for citizenship? Do you know what this entails for you? There are threads about naturalisation that exist already and give information for the long-winded process and the facilitated, cheaper process.
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Old 02.11.2006, 12:51
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No idea what citizenship entails I've heard mention of a one off fee, it just seemed like the natural progression after getting a C permit

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Lob Rockster are you by chance into mountain biking Rock Lobster?

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Old 02.11.2006, 12:56
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Re: Work Permit for UK Citizen

Citizenship through regular methods will cost approximately one years' worth of tax. What do you expect as advantages of having a Swiss passport?

If you're married to a Swissie then you can do the cheaper version.

But it's all a question as to why, with an EU passport, you would want to bother

I'm not big into mountain biking. You must have me confused with someone else
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Old 02.11.2006, 13:01
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Re: Work Permit for UK Citizen

Hi m9rke,

Please give me a call, I have sent you a private message. I am in a very similar position with an American company.

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Old 02.11.2006, 19:12
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Re: Work Permit for UK Citizen

m9rke,

It sounds to me that the Swiss company you are covering for should be the ones that employ you and apply for your permit. Are they the ones that told you that you needed to apply for your own work permit? If so, shame on them - that's there job. No doubt they will be clueless and you'll have to end up teaching them (as Swiss) how Switzerland's red tape works. They have no excuse because there is loads of information available in German and French to companies to help them through this process, online applications and the whole thing.

Regarding your question about salary and taxes - it's impossible to say. But please limit questions on one thread to the original topic of the thread. We've had many other discussions about salaries and taxation - try the search function.
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Re: Work Permit for UK Citizen

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It sounds to me that the Swiss company you are covering for should be the ones that employ you and apply for your permit. Are they the ones that told you that you needed to apply for your own work permit? If so, shame on them - that's there job. No doubt they will be clueless and you'll have to end up teaching them (as Swiss) how Switzerland's red tape works. They have no excuse because there is loads of information available in German and French to companies to help them through this process, online applications and the whole thing.

Regarding your question about salary and taxes - it's impossible to say. But please limit questions on one thread to the original topic of the thread. We've had many other discussions about salaries and taxation - try the search function.
Mark and m9rke,

The rules changed (in 2004?) for EU bods.
As Brits, we apply ourselves - the employer doesn't have to do anything.

When started at UBS, they simply found out the opening times of the Kloten Gemeinde (local government office) for me. And that's it...
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Old 02.11.2006, 21:10
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The rules changed (in 2004?) for EU bods.
As Brits, we apply ourselves - the employer doesn't have to do anything.
Now that's very interesting. I presume you then have to collect some forms from your local community office and take them to the employer to sign, then bring them back for stamping or whatever they do? What were the requirements and how long did your process take.

I must say, it's just not fair. Some of us (even EU) had to sacrifice our first-borns when we first came here, and now if you are EU you can just waltz on in. Back in my day (20 miles through snow to school, etc...)...
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Re: Work Permit for UK Citizen

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Now that's very interesting. I presume you then have to collect some forms from your local community office and take them to the employer to sign, then bring them back for stamping or whatever they do? What were the requirements and how long did your process take.

I must say, it's just not fair. Some of us (even EU) had to sacrifice our first-borns when we first came here, and now if you are EU you can just waltz on in. Back in my day (20 miles through snow to school, etc...)...
Nah, went to Gemeinde with contract and passport.
Filled in form. Got "L" in 3 weeks (damn "B" quota ran out)
HR just wanted a photocopy when I got it.

My HR phoned the Migrationsamt (canton office that deals with foreigners permits) to double check.
They couldn't believe it.

I had to argue at the Gemeinde about the assurance of work thingy that non-EU still need, but hey.
Again, they couldn't believe it.

The rules are so astoundingly simple for EU bods, no-one believes it.
This includes HR staff, agencies and the old-timers.

FYI, one month later SWMBO got a 6 month "L" to look for work 'coz she's British... How's that for cheek

Links on ZH canton web site:
http://www.arbeitsbewilligungen.zh.c...gen_eu_en.html
http://www.welcome.zh.ch/internet/vd...lligungen.html
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Re: Work Permit for UK Citizen

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Now that's very interesting. I presume you then have to collect some forms from your local community office and take them to the employer to sign, then bring them back for stamping or whatever they do? What were the requirements and how long did your process take.

I must say, it's just not fair. Some of us (even EU) had to sacrifice our first-borns when we first came here, and now if you are EU you can just waltz on in. Back in my day (20 miles through snow to school, etc...)...
The employer doesn't get involved at all. When I came back here last year I went to the local government office told them I was now intending to live here and they gave me a B permit (my husband was already resident with a C which helps with the process). In all it took about 3 weeks to process. In the mean time I had a job offer and all my employer wanted was a photocopy of my permit when it came through, they were not involved in anyway at all. It was completely different from when I first came here 9 years ago when my then employer had to sponser my permit which was then tied to them even though it was a B.
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Re: Work Permit for UK Citizen

Hi 2 all.
i am a uk citizen , i moved to lausanne 20 days ago
i try to find job but they asked me about work permit. how can i get work permit and what kind must to be as i am first time came to suisse.
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