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Old 26.03.2008, 22:07
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New Permit in different Canton

My permit has been approved for a new Job. I am non EU B permit holder currently holding a Zurich B permit and resident in zurich. My new job is in Argau Canton. I would continue to live in Zurich canton since Mrs. Justdoit works here.

Now to my questions.
1. can i still live in zurich canton while holding a work permit in Argau.
2. Can my wife work in Zurich, since she is on a dependant B permit. I think this should not be a problem since according to the new law the spouse can work without authorisation.

I hope Someone can help
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My permit has been approved for a new Job. I am non EU B permit holder currently holding a Zurich B permit and resident in zurich. My new job is in Argau Canton. I would continue to live in Zurich canton since Mrs. Justdoit works here.

Now to my questions.
1. can i still live in zurich canton while holding a work permit in Argau.
2. Can my wife work in Zurich, since she is on a dependant B permit. I think this should not be a problem since according to the new law the spouse can work without authorisation.

I hope Someone can help
Congratulation on getting new permit.
I have a question from you. I would be grateful for reply.

As I recall you had a permit with Z-Code 1406 until 2009 ; Right ? Was it now difficult to get new permit in other canton ? what is the type of new permit (long-term or short)?

Thanks indeed
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Old 27.03.2008, 06:23
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My permit has been approved for a new Job. I am non EU B permit holder currently holding a Zurich B permit and resident in zurich. My new job is in Argau Canton. I would continue to live in Zurich canton since Mrs. Justdoit works here.

Now to my questions.
1. can i still live in zurich canton while holding a work permit in Argau.
2. Can my wife work in Zurich, since she is on a dependant B permit. I think this should not be a problem since according to the new law the spouse can work without authorisation.

I hope Someone can help
Assuming you already have the permission to change employer:

1. Yes - you need to get the new employer on to your permit
2. Yes
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Old 27.03.2008, 08:19
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Congratulation on getting new permit.
I have a question from you. I would be grateful for reply.

As I recall you had a permit with Z-Code 1406 until 2009 ; Right ? Was it now difficult to get new permit in other canton ? what is the type of new permit (long-term or short)?

Thanks indeed
The old one was 1406. I will get a copy of the new approval letter today. So will update you later.
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Old 27.03.2008, 08:21
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Congratulation on getting new permit.
I have a question from you. I would be grateful for reply.

As I recall you had a permit with Z-Code 1406 until 2009 ; Right ? Was it now difficult to get new permit in other canton ? what is the type of new permit (long-term or short)?

Thanks indeed
I had 2 new permits requests rejected in Zurich Canton for different employers. But the new one has been approved in Argau. So i would say it has been difficult in Zurich but not in the other canton. I will update the details later
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Re: New Permit in different Canton

What is this Z-code you mention? Is it on the permit?
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Old 27.03.2008, 15:24
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What is this Z-code you mention? Is it on the permit?
zulassungscode...Z-code for short.
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What is this Z-code you mention? Is it on the permit?
Zulassungscode indicates the type of Work permit .

In the attachment, the table of Z-Codes:
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Old 27.03.2008, 15:43
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Zulassungscode indicates the type of Work permit .

In the attachment, the table of Z-Codes:
I seriously doubt if these are still unchanged since the new Aliens (AuG) law...
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I seriously doubt if these are still unchanged since the new Aliens (AuG) law...
I really searched a lot to find the new one. No success.. it is for 01/06/2007

It would be great, if someone could provide us the new one
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Re: New Permit in different Canton

Thanks for your response! Do you have a french version? I cannot make head or tail of the file you attached.
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Thanks for your response! Do you have a french version? I cannot make head or tail of the file you attached.
No. I am really sorry..
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Old 30.03.2008, 10:20
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Re: New Permit in different Canton

I have received the approval letter and talked to the migrationsamt. The approval letter still has the same code. But in the validity there is no end date. It says valid from xx.xx.xxxx to "space".

And the migrationsamt told me that i can continue to live in zurich and there is nothing i need to do. He also said that I have a right to stay in any canton as long as i am employed anywhere in switzerland, but you need to apply to the respective canton before moving there.
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I have received the approval letter and talked to the migrationsamt. The approval letter still has the same code. But in the validity there is no end date. It says valid from xx.xx.xxxx to "space".

And the migrationsamt told me that i can continue to live in zurich and there is nothing i need to do. He also said that I have a right to stay in any canton as long as i am employed anywhere in switzerland, but you need to apply to the respective canton before moving there.
Thanks man for giving more info.
I had the following questions. I would be grateful, if you could reply them.
1- Can you change the job with new permit or not ?
2- In order to get new permit for jobs in Zurich : you found the job, signed the contract, but you didn't quit from old company. And the new company applied for permit. Am I right? For the application, did you have anything from old company (like : they are happy to let you go ) or even did they know that you were changing the job?
3-Were the new companies big or international ? or rather they were small or medium size companies ? Because the big companies have good lawyers and ...
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Old 30.03.2008, 22:11
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1- Can you change the job with new permit or not ?
I am not sure about that. I didnt ask this with the migration department. I will try to find it our once i join the new company

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2- In order to get new permit for jobs in Zurich : you found the job, signed the contract, but you didn't quit from old company. And the new company applied for permit. Am I right? For the application, did you have anything from old company (like : they are happy to let you go ) or even did they know that you were changing the job?
Like stated in my previous posts i had one permit request in which they asked for a letter from my current company and i refused. so they rejected the request. but for the current permit there was no request for any letter and the current company was not aware. They only got to know about it on Friday

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Big or small does not make a difference. The lawyers do not play a part in the decision process. The above example of my rejected permit was for a Big company (Fortune 10 ). My new company is not as big. Hope this anwers your questions
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Like stated in my previous posts i had one permit request in which they asked for a letter from my current company and i refused. so they rejected the request. but for the current permit there was no request for any letter and the current company was not aware. They only got to know about it on Friday
Thanks indeed for the reply. it made me really clear .
Just a small question,if I don't bother you . What should be mentioned in the letter : The project is finished or just a recommendation ? Could you please explain me a little bit what sort of letter they asked.
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Old 30.03.2008, 23:17
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Thanks indeed for the reply. it made me really clear .
Just a small question,if I don't bother you . What should be mentioned in the letter : The project is finished or just a recommendation ? Could you please explain me a little bit what sort of letter they asked.
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A letter stating that your present employer why they do not need you anymore. this letter is no garuntee that the new permit will be issued
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I am not sure about that. I didnt ask this with the migration department. I will try to find it our once i join the new company

small does not make a difference. The lawyers do not play a part in the decision process. The above example of my rejected permit was for a Big company (Fortune 10 ). My new company is not as big. Hope this anwers your questions

Hi,

Sorry to disturb. I just was wondering that could you find out that whether you can change your job without permit or not ?

Thanks a lot,
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My permit has been approved for a new Job. I am non EU B permit holder currently holding a Zurich B permit and resident in zurich. My new job is in Argau Canton. I would continue to live in Zurich canton since Mrs. Justdoit works here.
Where did you applied for the new permit? At Migrationamt or Arbeitsamt? Can you give me some details about the procedure?

I am very confused about the job change information.
I also have a non EU B permit, I am working in canton AG (since this year 2008) and I would like to move to ZH(at least to work there). A company wanted to hire me but they also don't know the procedure. I went to a lawyer who told me I need only a aproval from Arbeitsamt ZH and that the Migrationamt has nothing to do with it. But I heard/read so many versions, that I don't know what to belive.

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Where did you applied for the new permit? At Migrationamt or Arbeitsamt? Can you give me some details about the procedure?

I am very confused about the job change information.
I also have a non EU B permit, I am working in canton AG (since this year 2008) and I would like to move to ZH(at least to work there). A company wanted to hire me but they also don't know the procedure. I went to a lawyer who told me I need only a aproval from Arbeitsamt ZH and that the Migrationamt has nothing to do with it. But I heard/read so many versions, that I don't know what to belive.

Thanks.
Hi,
There is nothing complicated in the procedure at all. Whether you are granted permission to do what you want, is another story.

Forget about Kanton this and Amt that. Go to your Gemiende Haus because it's the Gemeinde in which you live that controls your destiny.
Once at the Gemeinde Haus (check opening hours because they don't all work standard office hours), find the reception desk, stand there with a smile on your face and explain to them what you want to do and they will take it from there, one way or the other.
Most Gemeinde have all the required departments under the same roof. A similar process will have to be undertaken with the Gemeinde you wish to move to. Remember you need permission to leave and permission to arrive.

I did this once without permission, changed Gemeinde and Kanton, but didn't change the job. I got away with it, but I was not popular for a while. I claimed ignorance and it worked that time, but we have followed the rules since.

Never do anything until any new prospective employer knows, understands and undertakes the required action. Taking a job without the required permissions and paperwork in place is an offence that will result in the employer and yourself being fined.

Remember also your current employer and the contract you signed with them will have a huge bearing on the outcome as will the original conditions that were used to grant the living and work permit in the first place.
"B" permit holders do not have the luxury of just deciding to quit one job, find another and move and I know it's a lot harder now than it used to be. Get fired because then things are a little easier

I also strongly recommend that all non EU citizens living and working in Switzerland, take out a Private Legal Insurance Policy. They are available from all the major insurance companies and will provide you with a lawyer for any employment related issues at no extra cost.

However what is required in the question above does not need the services of a lawyer and is a waste of money. This is something that is done by the individual in conjunction with the Gemeinde.

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