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arianemin 04.08.2014 01:29

Unemployment negative effect on Permit C/ Citizenship
 
I am a non-EU citizen, and I have a permit B until the end of my PhD studied.
I am finishing my Ph.D which means I have worked in Switzerland for the past 5 years, now I am thinking to get unemployment benefits when I finish because I have not found a job yet.
1. Can getting unemployment insurance benefit (RAV) affect the citizenship or even C permit in future? (provided that I can find a job after being a few month on unemployment benefits;))
2. How long I can receive this benefits?(My B permit expires at the end of my contract (end of PhD), but apparently they give a R permit after that)

Kosti 04.08.2014 01:58

Re: Unemployment negative effect on Permit C/ Citizenship
 
Its a bit of an official scam, but unfortunately you are not eligible for unemployment benefits, due to your B permit being primarily a student permit and not employment per se.

I also finished my PhD after paying four years of contributions to the RAV, but was clearly told by EPFL that unemployment benefits are not given while job hunting.

To get the job search permit you may need to show money in the bank for six months of living costs.

arianemin 04.08.2014 16:44

Re: Unemployment negative effect on Permit C/ Citizenship
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Kosti (Post 2210826)
Its a bit of an official scam, but unfortunately you are not eligible for unemployment benefits, due to your B permit being primarily a student permit and not employment per se.

I also finished my PhD after paying four years of contributions to the RAV, but was clearly told by EPFL that unemployment benefits are not given while job hunting.

To get the job search permit you may need to show money in the bank for six months of living costs.

:eek:
So even when you get that L (?) permit for job search you can not still apply for RAV benefits?
what the heck!

arianemin 08.01.2015 01:21

Re: Unemployment negative effect on Permit C/ Citizenship
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Kosti (Post 2210826)
Its a bit of an official scam, but unfortunately you are not eligible for unemployment benefits, due to your B permit being primarily a student permit and not employment per se.

I also finished my PhD after paying four years of contributions to the RAV, but was clearly told by EPFL that unemployment benefits are not given while job hunting.

To get the job search permit you may need to show money in the bank for six months of living costs.

Back to the subject of the topic: Supposing that the unemployment benefits will be given on job hunting period(With L Permit) is there a negative effect on future application for Permit C/ Citizenship?

smashe 08.01.2015 02:06

Re: Unemployment negative effect on Permit C/ Citizenship
 
I have a friend, who finished the PhD and got unemployment benefits until she found a job

Kanton Zurich requests for an early C permit that you should have received no social benefits in the last 5 years.. you can ask if unemployment benefits are categorized in this way - I assume not -

Stadt Zürich Soziale Dienste

miniMia 08.01.2015 08:47

Re: Unemployment negative effect on Permit C/ Citizenship
 
unemployment is not social benefits and should not be detrimental your citizenship request. it shouldn't for your permit either but we have seen no -EUs who have not been able to renew permits on unemployment and other who have.

freeworld 08.01.2015 11:02

Re: Unemployment negative effect on Permit C/ Citizenship
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by arianemin (Post 2211152)
:eek:
So even when you get that L (?) permit for job search you can not still apply for RAV benefits?
what the heck!

In Zurich, you can!

meloncollie 08.01.2015 11:17

Re: Unemployment negative effect on Permit C/ Citizenship
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by miniMia (Post 2313827)
unemployment is not social benefits and should not be detrimental your citizenship request. it shouldn't for your permit either but we have seen no -EUs who have not been able to renew permits on unemployment and other who have.

This seems to be canton/Gemeinde/bureaucrat dependent.

I know several people whose B permit renewal pplications were denied because of unemployment, I know a couple whose first time C permit applications were denied because of unemployment, I know of one C permit renewal that was denied because of unemployment - and one citizenship application as well.

All non-EU.



On the other hand, there seem to be folks here on the forum whose unemployment has not affected permit approval. Some cantons seem to have a different view than others.

Go figure.

mattalex 09.01.2015 00:32

Re: Unemployment negative effect on Permit C/ Citizenship
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by meloncollie (Post 2313923)
This seems to be canton/Gemeinde/bureaucrat dependent.

I know several people whose B permit renewal pplications were denied because of unemployment, I know a couple whose first time C permit applications were denied because of unemployment, I know of one C permit renewal that was denied because of unemployment - and one citizenship application as well.

All non-EU.


Go figure.

are all above rejected cases in Canton SZ? please specify the canton, thx


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