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help with 18.44 form [Importing Household Effects]

hello,

please advise as to filling in the the 18.44 form:

1. the date of transfer of domicile - we want to move the stuff 1 week ahead of the official start of contract - what date do we put there - the date of entry or the date of contract? (we don't have the residence permit but can enter with moving stuff because of the EU passport)

2. so, we move most of the things ahead but will have 2 luggage bags with us (and laptops/cameras) when we arrive next weekend.

do we declare the things we'll bring later now or do we have to fill in an additional form for that?

thanks so much for helping decode the form!
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Old 22.08.2014, 12:01
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Re: help with 18.44 form [Importing Household Effects]

1. Date of transfer of your stuff. Noone will look for a permit.

2. I think you need a form for the stuff you are bringing in now, and then tick the box that says "parial import" or something, and then fill in another one for the next import.

I hope you're not listing every single book or CD or plate or whatever, just use large categories as per the example on the website. It wasn't as painful as it looked once we started filling it in.
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Moving household-going through customs on Saturday

Hello all,

did anybody go through customs on Saturday?
we want to do that in a van on Saturday via Basel port of entry.

Does anyone have experience with that? How long are the lines? What time (at the latest) should we arrive there?

Thanks,

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Old 22.08.2014, 13:43
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Re: Moving household-going through customs on Saturday

I can't comment for Saturdays, but we cleared our goods personally during the week and it took almost no time at all. There was no wait at the French customs (to declare the export) nor at the Swiss customs (to declare the import) and the whole process took about 30 minutes.

Make sure you understand all the paperwork required ahead of time, and remember that you need to have the paperwork for your vehicles as well if you're importing them at the same time.
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Re: help with 18.44 form [Importing Household Effects]

Done this 2 weeks ago, so I can confirm it is the day of the transfer.

As for the list, you can mark partial import, as Bozza indicated, and when you transfer the rest of your stuff, just make sure to make a second broad list and stamp it at the border. Than file the form and 2 lists, and presto.

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1. Date of transfer of your stuff. Noone will look for a permit.

2. I think you need a form for the stuff you are bringing in now, and then tick the box that says "parial import" or something, and then fill in another one for the next import.

I hope you're not listing every single book or CD or plate or whatever, just use large categories as per the example on the website. It wasn't as painful as it looked once we started filling it in.
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Re: Moving household-going through customs on Saturday

You can just stamp your documents (mainly the list that is an attachment to 18.44 form) on the border, and declare the goods later, during the week.

I am speaking from experience. I crossed the border on Friday night, near Schaffhausen. All in all it took 15 minutes both for German and Swiss side.
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Re: Moving household-going through customs on Saturday

When you don't officially live here, how are you going to import your household stuff? You need to be registered with Aufenthalterlaubniss

The customs office at Basel autobahn closes at 13:00 on Saturday, but as others have hinted: you can stamp your forms and inventory, and leave them in a customs post box at the border. Don't take the truck entrance, it is closed.

http://www.aussenhandel.biz/za/CH001801

If you arrive late, this border crossing might be unmanned Saturday afternoon, but you need to visibly check first!

http://map.search.ch/weil-am-rhein/o...l-station-stop
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Re: Moving household-going through customs on Saturday

Thank you to all who responded. We did it on Saturday as planned. I really appreciate you taking time to offer assistance through this process.

Kind regards,

Oksana
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Re: help with 18.44 form [Importing Household Effects]

Hello everybody,

I have some questions about this subject so I figured I might just ask them in this thread.

I will move to Zurich in a week and will drive there with all my stuff. I'll cross the border from Germany to CH at Basel. Since this will be a long drive, I'm trying to prepare this stuff the best I can such that I'll not waste time here. Am I right that the weil am rhein customs office is the one i'll cross? And that I can import my household goods mon-fri 0500 - 2145? Also, do I have to take a special lane or exit to get to the customs?

Finally, I have a mountainbike that is just over six months old (lucky me). As it looks quite new, would it be wise to bring a copy of the receipt to prove that its actually older than six months?

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Re: help with 18.44 form [Importing Household Effects]

If you're looking at opening hours here
http://www.ezv.admin.ch/dienstleistu...%3D%3D&lang=en

I think the right row is the "Einfur" row, ie open from 07.00. We crossed at 08.00 there a couple of months ago so it's definitely open then...

You don't have to take a special exit, just go as per normal, but you probably will be asked to pull aside while they inspect you. If not, then... success!

And with the mountain bike, definitely a good idea to have a receipt. But if it's amongst household stuff the probably won't do anything (they didn't go through our stuff, just looked at quantity and our 18.44 and gave us a viginette and that's it).
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Re: help with 18.44 form [Importing Household Effects]

Thanks for this sub-10-minute reply Bozza, very helpful! If "Einfuhr" is the right row, I'll have to be there before 1730, that might be tricky... What happens then? Will the customs still pull me aside and send me to this post box? To my best knowledge I do not have to pay any taxes, so if I can simply drive on, should I do so?
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Re: help with 18.44 form [Importing Household Effects]

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Hello everybody,

Finally, I have a mountainbike that is just over six months old (lucky me). As it looks quite new, would it be wise to bring a copy of the receipt to prove that its actually older than six months?

Thanks!
MDEF
Yes you will need the receipt.

If it was under 6 months and you had to pay tax, you would still need the receipt otherwise the tax you would have you probably be higher without.
Lucky you it is just over 6 months since your brought it, i.e. you have owned it more than 6 months, not it is more than 6 months old?
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Yes you will need the receipt.

If it was under 6 months and you had to pay tax, you would still need the receipt otherwise the tax you would have you probably be higher without.
Lucky you it is just over 6 months since your brought it, i.e. you have owned it more than 6 months, not it is more than 6 months old?
I have bought the bike more than half a year ago, so I've owned it for more than 6 months. Thanks for your advice, i'll make sure to bring a receipt.
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Thanks for this sub-10-minute reply Bozza, very helpful! If "Einfuhr" is the right row, I'll have to be there before 1730, that might be tricky... What happens then? Will the customs still pull me aside and send me to this post box? To my best knowledge I do not have to pay any taxes, so if I can simply drive on, should I do so?
Tricky. There will be someone at the border most/all day. Worst case scenario, they will ask you what you're doing, you admit you're "importing yourself" and they tell you to come back when it's open. Or they are lenient and let you through by having a look at your contents. The risk is that you'll have to book last minute accomm. in Mulhouse or the German side.

You could lie and say the van is empty, but if they check, you might be in more trouble.

At the end of the day, if you're EU, you don't need any stamp from the border (unless you have a pet, and then you do as we found out too late!). This is just a custom clearance and they want to make sure you're not dodging VAT/duty. So if you can sneak your way through the border, you're off the hook.

We didn't want to take a risk on them turning us away on the weekend and stayed in Mulhouse overnight.
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Re: help with 18.44 form [Importing Household Effects]

Thank you so much Bozza. I think lying to the customs would be a bad idea, so then it might be best to simply leave very early to make sure I'm there before 1730. Or, like you did, book a hotel beforehand.
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Re: help with 18.44 form [Importing Household Effects]

We did it on Saturday - stayed in a hotel in France and then came to the customs on Basel on Saturday. We did have most of the receipts for the large and more expensive items we brought -- exercise machine, TV...

It is somewhat tricky with that 6 months rule -- because they also state something like 'item must show signs of use' -- we were worried somewhat about that because if one takes care of their stuff, there will be not many signs on a TV or a laptop after 6 months

But this is the case that we are dealing with people at the customs - some may be more understanding while others will make a big deal of small things - hopefully you will have a good experience

Our experience was not a smooth one -- the customs officer spoke only German (should be no problem for you I suppose); we did not speak German. He was speaking fast German even seeing that we did not understand him and switched to English only to say something like "do you think i am a clown or what?"

So the bottom line - try to have all you receipts ready and study ahead all the documentation necessary so you know what they are asking for.
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Re: help with 18.44 form [Importing Household Effects]

Not great "customer service". :/

The customs officer we saw just looked inside the van and then asked "so is that it? or will there be another van next week?"
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Re: help with 18.44 form [Importing Household Effects]

Thanks for sharing your experience oksana. Reading this I'll make sure to look for more receipts of items that don't "show signs of use". And let's hope for a friendly customs officer!
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