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Old 17.10.2014, 21:11
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Problems renewing my B permit - language certificate required

I've been living in Uster (just east of Zurich) for almost 5 years now, and was recently sent the form for extending my B permit.

I ticked the relevant boxes, signed it and took it to the local office.

That was 2 weeks ago. I came home this evening to find a letter from them telling me that I have met the requirements for renewing my permit and that I just need to provide them with the following:

  • Confirmation of where I've lived for the past 3 years.
    I'd have thought they'd know this because I've lived in Uster since the start of 2010.
  • Confirmation of my work which shows the period of employment and the average working week.
  • The next one I'm not too sure about, or how it differs from the first point: "Auszug aus dem Betreibungsregister Ihrer Wohngemeinde betreffend die letzten drei Jahre."
  • Certificate proof of A2 German, spoken and written.
It's the last one which is really concerning me because I have 3 weeks to provide them with this certificate. Which I don't have.


I have been taking a German course, but I'm still studying A2 and there's no way I could take and pass the exam in the next three weeks.


Furthermore, it was my (perhaps naive) understanding that the language certificate was only required for a C permit - a couple of friends of mine renewed their permits earlier this year and weren't asked to prove their language ability.


Does anyone have any advice?
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Old 17.10.2014, 21:14
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Re: Problems renewing my B permit - language certificate required

are you sure they're not trying to give you a C?
nationality?

the one you're not sure about is the extract from the debt register.
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Old 17.10.2014, 21:19
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Re: Problems renewing my B permit - language certificate required

It's because usually an EU national automatically gets a C permit after 5 years on a B. But Zurich canton now seems to require that you speak German to A2 to get it. If you can't provide the certificate I assume you'll get another B permit instead.
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Re: Problems renewing my B permit - language certificate required

The C permit was my first thought when I read their response, but I certainly didn't ask for a C. Like I said, I have a B and they sent me the application for an extension. The form didn't say B or C, it just had boxes to tick for my employment status, my passport number, and then a signature.

And neither does their response make any mention of it being a C permit that these conditions relate to.

If this is because they're automatically assuming I want a C, and it'll fall back to a B then I could understand it (and that makes me a little relieved) but wouldn't it say this? Shouldn't it say something like "If you can't produce this then you will remain on a B permit"?

As for my nationality, I'm Scot... er, British.
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Re: Problems renewing my B permit - language certificate required

Why not calling them and simply asking?
Let us know the outcome.
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Re: Problems renewing my B permit - language certificate required

You don't always have to ask. Iirc we got ours without asking, but I know some others here on the forum have had to request a C when returning their B permit application form.

Depends. I think the language requirement is fairly new so they could just be using up the current copies of the form before getting new ones with such an option printed on them. Far as I know there's not a requirement for a language certificate to renew a B permit in any of the cantons.

As ever, if in doubt check with your canton's migration office for clarification.
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Re: Problems renewing my B permit - language certificate required

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The C permit was my first thought when I read their response, but I certainly didn't ask for a C. Like I said, I have a B and they sent me the application for an extension. The form didn't say B or C, it just had boxes to tick for my employment status, my passport number, and then a signature.

And neither does their response make any mention of it being a C permit that these conditions relate to.

If this is because they're automatically assuming I want a C, and it'll fall back to a B then I could understand it (and that makes me a little relieved) but wouldn't it say this? Shouldn't it say something like "If you can't produce this then you will remain on a B permit"?

As for my nationality, I'm Scot... er, British.
Och aye the nooo then

They will normally process the 5 year renewal for EU's as a C you don't have to ask, if you don't qualify for a C, they will give you a B and you sign the eklären form that explains why. I started my renewal in August in ZH and that how they explained it and certified A2 was the requirement I would miss. However we are moving to Zug, so the immigration in ZH said best to stop and re-apply in Zug to save me some coin (how nice). The process was the same except Zug turned the process around from application to issue in 5 days (ZH was approaching 4 weeks) and want A2 written and B1 spoken for a C... I got another B, so don't stress about it.
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Re: Problems renewing my B permit - language certificate required

Thanks for the responses.

My initial reaction was a not-too-small degree of panic, but thanks to the reassuring bosom of the English Forum I'm feeling a bit more positive that they've er... probably (hopefully) handled my application as for a C permit.

Given how valuable I am to the Swiss economy, I should have expected this.
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Re: Problems renewing my B permit - language certificate required

The documents you listed are the required documents for a C permit for EU citizens in Kanton Zurich. I did not have to do a language test but then I am from a country that does not have this requirement.
If they had wanted to extend the B only, you would most likely not have had the requirement to provide all those other documents. Good luck!
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Re: Problems renewing my B permit - language certificate required

I've just called the Migrationsamt and they said that the letter is indeed for a C permit. In fact, the letter is entitled "Niederlassungsbewilligung" which I understood to mean work/residence permits in general but which I now realise is the official name of a C permit, whereas the B is called "Aufenthaltsgenehmigung".

He explained that if I don't want a Niederlassungsbewilligung at the current time then I should send them a letter explaining this. I don't need to provide any further documentation, and I should then receive the Aufenthaltsgenehmigung.

Phew.

Friday evening is the worst time to open such a letter.
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