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Re: Changing my B permit to a C Permit

Answered my own question. Get your finger off the groan button Goose.

https://www.stadt-zuerich.ch/prd/de/...erlassung.html
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Old 26.11.2014, 12:44
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Answered my own question. Get your finger off the groan button Goose.

https://www.stadt-zuerich.ch/prd/de/...erlassung.html
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Old 26.11.2014, 13:04
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Answered my own question. Get your finger off the groan button Goose.

https://www.stadt-zuerich.ch/prd/de/...erlassung.html
So for those on here who don't understand enough German to read the link basically you don't need the language certificate for the renewal of an existing C permit in Zurich canton.
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Old 26.11.2014, 13:12
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Re: Changing my B permit to a C Permit

There is no date on that link just 2014. Like I said I can only speak from the experience of 2 permit renewals 1 pre 1 post the rule change, and what a real person said.

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Old 26.11.2014, 13:35
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Re: Changing my B permit to a C Permit

The link I posted does not mention language certificate for renewal. I am guessing it applies to new applicants going from B to C.

I'll let you know the definitive answer in 2016.

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Re: Changing my B permit to a C Permit

So I just spoke to the Gemeinde and i received a yellow sheet saying:

Umwandlung von B in C Ausweis

Erforderliche Papiere:

- Bestätigung Sozialamt über die letzen 2 Jahre
- Betreibungsauskunft
- Zentralstrafregisterauszug
- Arbeitsvertrag von der Person selber oder Ehegatte


I spoke German with them and they seemed to hand it to me quite quickly and seemed like it was a normal process. There was no mention of language proof or anything of the sort. So now I am in the process of collecting all these papers. Lets see what happens .
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Re: Changing my B permit to a C Permit

Hi, I just got the C after 5 years in CH and am a US citizen. I specifically requested it when i got the notice i had to renew the B. My wife also did the same when her B was up for renewal - you must specifically ask.

As I understand the language requirement varies from canton to canton. There was no lanaguage requirement of Kanton Aargau (where I reside). I don't speak any German other that wie geht's or mien Name ist.

However, a colleagues husband who is a US citizen and resides in Kanton Zurich was not eligible for a C since he could not document his German language proficiency Level. As I understand, he is like me, can't care to learn German (or any other language for that matter).

The process was fairly fast, once i communicated the documents has highlighted in the previous post, it was ready within days of their receipt.

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Re: Changing my B permit to a C Permit

Ok Paperwork is with the Gemeinde. Fingers crossed I get a positive result without any trouble!!
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Re: Changing my B permit to a C Permit

Another update over here. My company received paperwork from Kanton Zurich verifying my employment and I had to sign 2 copies of it. In my 5 years of getting B permits I have not had to do that. Also my Employer did not have experience with receiving this form either. It was verification of Salary etc etc etc. However, I have not heard anything yet from Kanton Zurich requesting more information from my side after I submitted everything to the Gemeinde as requested.
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Re: Changing my B permit to a C Permit

Letter to the employer ? Something new for me .. everybody seems to come up with 'new experiences' in the recent few months ..
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Re: Changing my B permit to a C Permit

Swiss Colleagues mentioned it might be for some kind of verification as the taxing will change… But I donno.. All speculation and anticipation at the moment
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Re: Changing my B permit to a C Permit

So still no word but just a few days ago I recieved some bills of taxes I owe still for 2012. Seems my account is being audited. Weird stuff but since I recieved still nothing directly from the Kanton I have a good feeling about this
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Re: Changing my B permit to a C Permit

I am wondering when you apply to switch form B to C permit, how does the canton calculate your time. Do you have any advantages if you have employed as PhD student for few years at a Swiss university or they only take into account the duration in which you work as professional at company.
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Old 06.01.2015, 08:39
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Re: Changing my B permit to a C Permit

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I am wondering when you apply to switch form B to C permit, how does the canton calculate your time. Do you have any advantages if you have employed as PhD student for few years at a Swiss university or they only take into account the duration in which you work as professional at company.
Time worked as a student does count towards a C iirc, providing there's been no break between being a student and landing a job here. More here:

1y student B + 2y working L + 2y working B = C (Non EU)

US citizen student for over 5 years, how long to get C permit?
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Re: Changing my B permit to a C Permit

So guys... It has been since December that I updated this I thought it would be helpful to do so now.

I will answer ABSOLUTELY now that the Language requirement for the C permit is really required and there is no magical way around it as many people on the forum are always asking about. (at least in Canton Zurich). I was even guilty of hoping and trying to find a way around it .

So fast forward to last December when I was waiting for the answer from the Migrationsamt. I finally 3 weeks later received a letter from them with the dreaded "Niveau A2 Deutschzertifikat" on it. I talked to as many people there as I could following that and always got the answer that is was required even though I was asking them and fully communicating in German.

So then over the following couple of weeks I did some research on the Goethe A2 test itself and got familiar with the subjects and format. Then I spoke with my companies German instructor to get a few more tips.. When I had studied enough and felt fairly confident about it I looked into booking the test. In Zurich I found the required test is only available every 3 months or so either in Winterthur or Central Zurich depending on where they send you. I wound up with my Goethe A2 START DEUTSCH 2 taking place on 27/08/2015. During the test I had a fair amount of nervousness and leaving afterwards I wasn't so sure how I did. That is where it gets a bit torturous as you must wait up to 4 weeks for the results.

Around 4 weeks later I received the results and was happy to pass with a 90 out of 100 score. I was quite pleased. I collected all the other papers together I had experience with in my first attempt (Betreibungsauszug, Strafregisterauszug, etc etc) and marched to the Gemeinde.

My application was accepted finally as all requirements have finally been met and it was a bit easier to apply the 2nd time around as I was already experienced. Now I am simply waiting and hoping to soon have my hands on the new C Permit.
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Re: Changing my B permit to a C Permit

If one is on RAV is it still possible to convert from B to C? since RAV is effectively employing you..right?

Also how old can the language certificates be to be accepted by the migration office?
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Re: Changing my B permit to a C Permit

What is the case for non eu spouses of swiss citizens? B to C that is.
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So guys... It has been since December that I updated this I thought it would be helpful to do so now.

I will answer ABSOLUTELY now that the Language requirement for the C permit is really required and there is no magical way around it as many people on the forum are always asking about. (at least in Canton Zurich)
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The requirement is dependent on your nationality. For example, I am Dutch and did not need to do a test.
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Re: Changing my B permit to a C Permit

Hi all,
For what it's worth: I am Canadian. After having lived in Kanton Bern for 5 years with a B permit, a C permit simply showed up in the mail one day. Just like that: no language test, no request, no one from HR at work involved in this.
Reading through these posts it sounds as though there might be cantonal differences, the old von Kanton zu Kanton verschieden.
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What is the case for non eu spouses of swiss citizens? B to C that is.
The attached document from Ct. Zurich migration office should answer your question:

http://www.ma.zh.ch/internet/sicherh...+1.06.2015.pdf
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