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Old 27.01.2015, 14:19
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New "passport card" for irish citizens

Some news which is of interest to all irish citizens. From July, the irish goverment will provide a new "passport card" (a credit card sized passport) which will be valid in all European Economic Area countries and also Switzerland once/if the corresponding bilateral agreement is signed. The card is optional and will cost 35 euro.

http://www.rte.ie/news/2015/0126/675641-passport-card/
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Old 27.01.2015, 14:34
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Re: New "passport card" for irish citizens

Interesting idea.

It'd save carrying the full passport when only travelling within the EU and would stop that "please don't stop me, please don't stop me" feeling I get when going to France and Germany whilst my passport is in some embassy getting a visa
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Old 27.01.2015, 14:44
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Some news which is of interest to all irish citizens. From July, the irish goverment will provide a new "passport card" (a credit card sized passport) which will be valid in all European Economic Area countries and also Switzerland once/if the corresponding bilateral agreement is signed. The card is optional and will cost 35 euro.

http://www.rte.ie/news/2015/0126/675641-passport-card/
So a straight-forward ID card just like in most of the EU .
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Old 27.01.2015, 15:22
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So a straight-forward ID card just like in most of the EU .
pretty much, it's something that we don't have now
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Old 27.01.2015, 15:31
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Re: New "passport card" for irish citizens

So just like the UK had, for about two months before they annoyingly cancelled themů think I'm one of the few that had them.
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Old 27.01.2015, 16:48
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Re: New "passport card" for irish citizens

A couple of years back, Switzerland also wanted to implement a passport card. I like the idea but then the charm of a classic immigration stamp would disappear.
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Old 27.01.2015, 17:16
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A couple of years back, Switzerland also wanted to implement a passport card. I like the idea but then the charm of a classic immigration stamp would disappear.
Surely the Swiss ID card is exactly that? It acts as a passport within Europe.
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Old 27.01.2015, 18:29
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Surely the Swiss ID card is exactly that? It acts as a passport within Europe.
Certainly, but I was referring to a proper ID card passport, which one could use beyond the perilous grounds of Europe.
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Old 27.01.2015, 22:51
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Certainly, but I was referring to a proper ID card passport, which one could use beyond the perilous grounds of Europe.
How? Where would the visas go for countries that require them?
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Old 27.01.2015, 23:03
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How? Where would the visas go for countries that require them?
It would be stored on the card I suppose.
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Old 27.01.2015, 23:11
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It would be stored on the card I suppose.
it should be huge to contain all stickers

even more scary would be a digital version: all countries in the world would need access to store visa information on your passport.
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it should be huge to contain all stickers

even more scary would be a digital version: all countries in the world would need access to store visa information on your passport.
The should just incorporate it into the Oyster/Octopus metro card system along with a prepaid credit card....but I guess I'm way ahead of my time here.

On a more serious note, the current passport scanning system is also standardized in many country, so I do not see a big issue in implementing such card readers.

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Old 28.01.2015, 20:27
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So a straight-forward ID card just like in most of the EU .
Oh no don't call it that! That is exactly why it has taken so long - opposition to national identity cards same as the UK, so some bright spark came up with a new name "Passport Card", so everyone is happy now
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Oh no don't call it that! That is exactly why it has taken so long - opposition to national identity cards same as the UK, so some bright spark came up with a new name "Passport Card", so everyone is happy now
They copied the American terminology. US passport cards are good for terrestrial travel to and from Canada, Mexico and the Caribbean. http://travel.state.gov/content/pass...tion/card.html (Some states issue "enhanced driving licenses" to eligible citizens and these serve the same function http://www.dhs.gov/enhanced-drivers-...-what-are-they )
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Re: New "passport card" for irish citizens

I always envied my husbands little card while i brought my bulky passport everywhere fearing i would lose my only ID. Just as i get my swiss ID the irish card appears! Typical!
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Re: New "passport card" for irish citizens

Unless I'm missing something, it doesn't require the ability to take visa stamps since it's only valid within the eec.

For other travel you'd just use your passport.
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Unless I'm missing something, it doesn't require the ability to take visa stamps since it's only valid within the eec.

For other travel you'd just use your passport.
Exactly. That's all its meant for, as Ireland won't ever be part of Schengen as long as there is an agreement with the UK (and the land border will see to that staying put.)

And of course it's being backed and promoted by the Minister as an official ID for nights out in Ireland

Though according to Foreign Affairs, it's valid for EU and EEA travel. Switzerland being the only EFTA member not in the EEA. Can hope/presume/assume that due to Schengen agreements it's okay for crossing borders into CH.
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The card is optional and will cost 35 euro.

http://www.rte.ie/news/2015/0126/675641-passport-card/
That is 35 Euro every 5 years for the card.

The normal Irish passport is valid 10 years.
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Re: New "passport card" for irish citizens

Whilst on the subject, if you live in Geneva and want to renew your Irish passport and need your photos endorsed - the police won't do it, neither will the banks, nor the Office de la Population. I have run around the lot of them.

A lawyer is the only way to go. Their information is out of date. I tried all of the above and no go. Luckily i have a friend who is a lawyer.

It is like getting blood out of a stone... Oh, i just got a wee yellow paper from the Post Office saying i have a letter from Berne - Probably there is a f-up in my passport application.

Shall report back on Monday.
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Whilst on the subject, if you live in Geneva and want to renew your Irish passport and need your photos endorsed - the police won't do it, neither will the banks, nor the Office de la Population. I have run around the lot of them.

A lawyer is the only way to go. Their information is out of date. I tried all of the above and no go. Luckily i have a friend who is a lawyer.

It is like getting blood out of a stone... Oh, i just got a wee yellow paper from the Post Office saying i have a letter from Berne - Probably there is a f-up in my passport application.

Shall report back on Monday.
Our GP has endorsed ours, but agree it's tough finding someone here to do it.
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