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"Authorization for granting a visa" received - how is the procedure now?

Today, we received the above mentioned authorization for the family visa for my husband. I am Swiss, he is Lebanese. He is already in Switzerland with me on a tourist visa as I am expecting a baby very soon.

Now, does anyone know how the procedure from now on is? I am going to make some phone calls tomorrow, but as I am very impatient and curious I wonder if someone can tell me how it will go on now.

I suppose my husband has to go to Lebanon to the Swiss embassy to get the respective visa. Is that right? Then he comes back on that new family reunion visa. Does that take time in Lebanon or will it be issued immediately?

Does the visa (stamp) in his passport allow him to work? I guess not. Is it the "Auslaenderausweis" he will receive?

And is it correct that he needs health insurance from the date on he will register at the municipality? So we can choose the insurer now?

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Old 12.02.2015, 20:19
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Re: "Authorization for granting a visa" received - how is the procedure now?

Yes, if he applied in Lebanon that's where he should get the visa from. You could ask at your canton migration office if it's possible for him to get it here though as he's already in the country. Some cantons allow it, others don't.

If he has to go back to Lebanon he should contact the embassy there for info on how soon the visa can be stamped in his passport.

The visa has nothing to do with his being able to work or not. It only allows him to enter Switzerland long term, i.e. more than 90 days, legally. His permit is what governs whether he can work or not so you'd need to ask the canton migration office if that part is included on his residence permit or not. As you're Swiss I don't think it would be a problem if it isn't initially, it would just mean that when he finds a job he'd need to notify the migration office to get the work part added then.

Yes, he needs health insurance from when he registers so there's nothing to stop you looking for an insurer now.

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Re: "Authorization for granting a visa" received - how is the procedure now?

Thanks a lot! You are the experts here!

Married to me as Swiss citizen, a future employer doesn't have to go through the hassle of proving that he couldn't find a suitable Swiss or EU-citizen for the job, right?

So, when he finds a job and doesn't have the work part included on the permit yet, he just needs to inform the migration office and they are the ones that add the work permit then? Still no hassle for the employer?

Is the residence permit the "Auslaenderausweis"? God, I am so very ignorant of these things...
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Re: "Authorization for granting a visa" received - how is the procedure now?

That's right. He gets treated the same as any Swiss/EU national for hiring purposes. Just check when he picks up his permit whether it already has the work added to or whether he'll need to inform the migration office when he finds a job.

Can't help with "Auslaenderausweis" as I don't speak German.
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Re: "Authorization for granting a visa" received - how is the procedure now?

First take the letter to your local authorities and ask if you can register your husband without having the visa in his passport as he is already here.

If they say he needs the visa in the passport, then call the embassy in Lebanon and tell them he is in Switzerland and ask them if he can pick up the visa at an embassy in Europe so as not to have to travel back to Lebanon. It is the embassy that will determine this, not migrations nor the commune.
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Re: "Authorization for granting a visa" received - how is the procedure now?

Thanks so much for all the input!

I called the municipality and it seems that they sign him in without the family reunion visa in his passport. The letter of approval from the Migrationsamt seems enough for them.

However, he needs that visa anyway to travel, right?
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Re: "Authorization for granting a visa" received - how is the procedure now?

No, once the permit is issued to him it takes the place of the visa. So long as he travels with both passport and permit he's fine.
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...The letter of approval from the Migrationsamt seems enough for them...
Do you already have the letter? If so then you must have started the family reunification paperwork before he arrived. Otherwise I can't imagine how it was approved so quickly! Good for you!
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Re: "Authorization for granting a visa" received - how is the procedure now?

Sorry, I used the wrong term. Maybe not a "visa" but the residence "permit". As far as I know the permit gets stamped on his passport, just like a visa. It seems I am wrong, right? Then how does the permit look like?
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Re: "Authorization for granting a visa" received - how is the procedure now?

The visa is for entry only. It's a stamp in the passport.

Because you're Swiss, the permit is a credit card-sized piece of plastic. It may or may not have biometrics. It must be renewed annually.

Anyone married to an EU citizen gets a paper permit, and it is valid for 5 years.
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Sorry, I used the wrong term. Maybe not a "visa" but the residence "permit". As far as I know the permit gets stamped on his passport, just like a visa. It seems I am wrong, right? Then how does the permit look like?
No, the permit is a separate document/card. EU nationals get a paper one, non-EU's get a credit card type - don't ask me why they're different because I don't know. He'll have to get things like fingerprints done for the biometrics that are for the card I expect. He'll need to renew the permit every year as it will only be valid for a year at a time.
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Re: "Authorization for granting a visa" received - how is the procedure now?

Thanks to your answers things become more clear now.

One last question: How will he be allowed to travel within Europe? As a Lebanese he needs a Schengen visa to enter the Schengen territory. His tourist visa is still valid until June, but how will it be afterwards? Can he enter Switzerland with the permit? Isn't the permit something used within Switzerland? Still a bit confused...
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...One last question: How will he be allowed to travel within Europe? As a Lebanese he needs a Schengen visa to enter the Schengen territory. His tourist visa is still valid until June, but how will it be afterwards? Can he enter Switzerland with the permit? Isn't the permit something used within Switzerland? Still a bit confused...
Once he has the permit, he uses that and his passport to travel within Shengen. Within Switzerland he doesn't really need his permit on a daily basis. Some people carry it along all the time (it's easy with the credit card style) and others just leave it at home.

For future readers, this is not necessarily true for all non-EU spouses, but as OP's spouse would need a visa otherwise, he needs to have his permit along with the passport when traveling.
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Re: "Authorization for granting a visa" received - how is the procedure now?

As my husband is already in Switzerland on a tourist visa, does he need the family reunification visa? As far as I understand it is only needed to enter Switzerland.
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As my husband is already in Switzerland on a tourist visa, does he need the family reunification visa? As far as I understand it is only needed to enter Switzerland.
Sorry. Now I'm confused. Did you apply for a visa for him before he left where ever he was living?

Either way, it's time you go down to the commune and discuss your specific situation with them. They will be the ones who can tell you exactly what you need to do next considering all the specifics of your case.

Have you not gone to see the authorities yet?
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As my husband is already in Switzerland on a tourist visa, does he need the family reunification visa? As far as I understand it is only needed to enter Switzerland.
It seems based on your earlier post that the migration authorities have decided to be nice and they will allow him to register for a permit without having the proper visa in his passport. You're lucky in this aspect, particularly considering your husband is non-EU and also not American/Canadian/Aussie/Kiwi.

Proper procedure would have been to apply for a family reunification visa first - as his purpose in coming is not tourism but to live with family.

Anyway, for now he can keep traveling around Switzerland and Shengen on his current passport with the tourist visa. Once he gets his B-permit he uses that along with his passport instead of the visa.

Note that his Swiss residence permit will not allow him to travel to UK without a visa, as UK is not part of Shengen.
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Sorry. Now I'm confused. Did you apply for a visa for him before he left where ever he was living?

Either way, it's time you go down to the commune and discuss your specific situation with them. They will be the ones who can tell you exactly what you need to do next considering all the specifics of your case.

Have you not gone to see the authorities yet?
My husband came here on a tourist visa because I am pregnant and soon about to deliver. That is how he entered the country.

We already went to the municipality and they signed him in here. But they didn't know if he needs that visa to get the permit or not.

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It seems based on your earlier post that the migration authorities have decided to be nice and they will allow him to register for a permit without having the proper visa in his passport. You're lucky in this aspect, particularly considering your husband is non-EU and also not American/Canadian/Aussie/Kiwi.

Proper procedure would have been to apply for a family reunification visa first - as his purpose in coming is not tourism but to live with family.
We did apply for the family reunification visa, along with the tourist visa, because we knew it would take some time for the family reunification visa to be granted. And as I needed my husband close to me, we applied for both. It was discussed with the Swiss Embassy in Lebanon.

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My husband came here on a tourist visa because I am pregnant and soon about to deliver. That is how he entered the country.

We already went to the municipality and they signed him in here. But they didn't know if he needs that visa to get the permit or not.

We did apply for the family reunification visa, along with the tourist visa, because we knew it would take some time for the family reunification visa to be granted. And as I needed my husband close to me, we applied for both. It was discussed with the Swiss Embassy in Lebanon.
Okay, that makes more sense. It could be he will wind up with both visas, since the first was to get you here in time for the delivery and the second is to live here permanently. I'd suggest talking to the cantonal authorities since the municipal ones are unsure what to do.

Can you clarify what you mean by "signed him in?" Did they register your marriage? Has he signed up for health insurance, etc. yet?
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Re: "Authorization for granting a visa" received - how is the procedure now?

Generally a non-EU needs the D-visa in the passport to initially enter the country. Then they go to the commune/gemeinde and register and go through the process of getting the permit card. the d-visa is no longer needed.

When he travels with-in schengen he won't need a visa, his Swiss residence permit takes it place. Anywhere else, the UK for example, he will still need a visa for that country.

What you need to know, is if the gemeinde will let him register without the d-visa in his passport as he is already here.
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Technically, yes he should get the Type D visa as that's the one that allows him to enter Switzerland long term, i.e. for more than 90 days. The thing is it will not be issued until his permit has been approved by the cantonal authorities so until that happens he's on borrowed time as it were. When does his tourist visa run out? Have you provided all the necessary documents for his permit rather than just "signing him in". The Swiss authorities will want to see marriage certificate, a recent birth certificate for him translated into a Swiss language or English and probably apostilled too assuming you married abroad.
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