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Old 22.04.2008, 11:16
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I apologise if I'm asking something that has already been covered. I have been through the 'EU Permits - a few bullet points" but a lot of that deals with tax, whether to set up as a GmbH etc etc and we are seeking clarification on a more basic issue I think!

I am having trouble finding the answer to the following. My family and I wish to move to Switzerland. We are all British, but currently live in Germany. My husband and I are involved in some property development (in UK and looking elsewhere - not Switzerland) and my husband also works for his family's UK Ltd company in the UK (again, property development in the UK). Living in Germany is actually pretty random - we don't do any development/work here. We would like to move to Switzerland (Vaud) - we can provide a business plan, we can show enough funds for us to live on (at least for a period of time), as well as my husband's salary from the UK company. I am unclear whether it is acceptable to the Swiss for us to move there and undertake work entirely outside Switzerland, or whether they require 'independents' to show some future plans to employ someone in Switzerland, or actually do business in Switzerland etc etc.

Does anyone know whether it is possible to get B Permits on this basis. Any help would be appreciated.
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Exclusively on the back of UK employment the answer is no. Further your husband would need to set himself up as a sole trader / Ltd. and contract his services to his family's Ltd (as opposed to being an employee thereof).

Having an international-only business plan means the powers that be will likely be very thorogh when assesing its viability.
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Thanks for the reply. If he sets himself to contract with UK company as his client, and we can show that we have been supporting ourselves with this 'international' business for the past 5 years or so, could that pass their "thorough" checks - ie, are they basically just concerned that you can support yourself, or do they really want to see a future plan to do business within Switzerland?
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Thanks for the reply. If he sets himself to contract with UK company as his client, and we can show that we have been supporting ourselves with this 'international' business for the past 5 years or so, could that pass their "thorough" checks - ie, are they basically just concerned that you can support yourself, or do they really want to see a future plan to do business within Switzerland?
They don't mind where you do business as long as it is viable. Also, they might raise an eyebrow at having only one client - but Richard knows more about that than I do, hopefully he'll be around soon.
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Re: Self-employed/independent

Another point is to present your business plan in a way which will show to the immigration office a long term view of your residence in the country.

ie a business plan is a business plan....

assumptions can be made in a business plan

for ease of management and control and based on the success in the property developments, you would plan for a future swiss office and potentially a local secretarial help.

once a plan evolves over the years, there are always unknown events which could change this business plan: economic activity, change of focus...

the idea being to present a business plan which in essence presents a potential of local economic impact.

thus it is more in the form and the presentation than in the content . as long as it seems viable and credible.
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Another point is to present your business plan in a way which will show to the immigration office a long term view of your residence in the country.

ie a business plan is a business plan....

assumptions can be made in a business plan

for ease of management and control and based on the success in the property developments, you would plan for a future swiss office and potentially a local secretarial help.

once a plan evolves over the years, there are always unknown events which could change this business plan: economic activity, change of focus...

the idea being to present a business plan which in essence presents a potential of local economic impact.

thus it is more in the form and the presentation than in the content . as long as it seems viable and credible.
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