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Help me understand the 90 day visitor rule

As a US passport holder I am permitted to visit Switzerland for up to 90 days without a Visitors Visa and then proceed to a Schengen country for a further period of up to 90 days also without a Visitors Visa, i.e. a total of 180 days. Is this correct?
If correct I assume I could immediately return to Switzerland for a further period of up to 90 days (i.e. not exceeding 180 days in a 12 month period) without a Visitors Visa. Is this correct?
Switzerland intends to join the Schengen Visa Scheme on 1 November 2008. Schengen countries restrict visits to a maximum period of 90 days followed by 90 days outside these Schengen countries before being eligible for another 90-day period. These rules apparently apply to visitors irrespective of whether a Visitors Visa is required. Does this mean that after 1 November 2008 90 days in a Schengen country(ies) followed by 90 days in Switzerland will no longer be permitted, on the assumption that it is currently permitted?
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Re: Help me understand the 90 day visitor rule

I believe you must only be out of Switzerland for one month, IIRC. Then you can come in for another 90 days.

The issue would be to prove when you entered and exited. You can say you left, they can say you just went and got a stamp. Of course, if you're never asked and can support yourself, it is entirely possible that nobody will trouble you as you are effectively a "tourist".

What is your real question?
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Re: Help me understand the 90 day visitor rule

Thank you for your response. I simply wish to stay in Europe for about 6 months (France and/or Switzerland) and do not want to go through the process of applying for a long stay visa. It seemed to me that the only way in wish I could achieve this within the rules is to spend 90 days in France and 90 days in Switzerland. However, with Switzerland joining Schengen in November I am not sure whether this will work. I am afraid that this is my real question.
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Re: Help me understand the 90 day visitor rule

does a US passport holder need a Schengen visa?
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Re: Help me understand the 90 day visitor rule

No, a US passport holder does not need a Schengen Visa. However, the rules are the same, namely 90 days in a Schengen country(ies) followed by 90 days outside before re-entry for a further 90 days. I will not require any visa for a 90 day stay. I do not want to break the rules as I may at some point wish to apply for a long stay visa and I do not want to be on some immigration list as having exceeded my stay without the required visa. My objective is to spend 6 months in Europe and 6 months in the USA. This is not about tax avoidance as I am required to pay tax as a US citizen on my universal income irrespective of where I live or irrespective of the period I am outside of the US. It is about being able to spend 6 months in Europe without the need to go through the painful process of applying for a long stay visa, proof of income, health insurance, etc.
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Re: Help me understand the 90 day visitor rule

90 days is the official limit as a visa-less tourist.

You should have health insurance anyway - otherwise you'll pay if some health issue comes up. You should be able to support yourself during your stay here.

You don't tend to get stamps in your passport on entry or exit. Read between the lines there <----
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Re: Help me understand the 90 day visitor rule

There was a post on Swissinfo not too long ago saying that it's unlikely Switzerland will join Schengen this year (2008) as the process is delayed somewhere in the chain of political machinations. http://www.swissinfo.org/eng/politic...27283000&ty=st
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Re: Help me understand the 90 day visitor rule

For a US citizen to stay longer than 90 days within Schengen countries even with a Swiss residence permit - a Schengen Visa is REQUIRED. Hope that helps.
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