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Old 20.04.2015, 18:37
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Restricted B permit & unemployment insurance payment

Dear all,

My B permit for my previous job as a postdoc is "Ausbildung mit Erwebstaetigkeit". Would an "approval letter" from my postdoc's employer be sufficient to allow me to change employer? Or even with this letter, any new employer still has to re-initiate the process of applying for my new permit while my old permit is still valid?

Also, if I resigned from this previous job, am I not entitled to receive unemployment insurance payment during my job hunting because my old permit is in this restricted category?

I would really appreciate your pointing to any particular laws/regulations regarding these two issues. Many thanks in advance!
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Old 20.04.2015, 18:47
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Re: Restricted B permit & unemployment insurance payment

I think needs more than just an approval letter, any new employer will still have to prove they can't find a Swiss/EU national who could do the job before they could hire you. I assume you're hoping for something other than another PhD.

Not sure on the unemployment with a restricted B, but normally if you resign any job you're "penalised" by not being paid anything immediately, the delay could be anything from a month to 3 months before RAV start paying out.
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I think needs more than just an approval letter, any new employer will still have to prove they can't find a Swiss/EU national who could do the job before they could hire you. I assume you're hoping for something other than another PhD.

Not sure on the unemployment with a restricted B, but normally if you resign any job you're "penalised" by not being paid anything immediately, the delay could be anything from a month to 3 months before RAV start paying out.

Thanks very much for your answer, Medea Fleecestealer! Definitely I don''t want another PhD, but a real job . This restricted B permit was for a postdoc position. Do you know if postdocs usually have a B permit with the designation "Ausbildung", or only PhD students have this designation?

Regarding the unemployment insurance payment, I understand the penalty for resigning, but I don't know if this particular type of restricted B also takes away my right to receive unemployment insurance payment after the penalty period is over. My permit was valid for 5 months after I resigned from my postdoc. They penalized me for 2 months, then payed me for 2 months, and stopped paying me for the last month of the validity of my old B permit. Now they demand that I pay them back those 2 months, saying that I had no rights to the insurance because of this type of restricted B.

So I wonder if anyone else has been in the same situation and could share your experience. Millions of thanks!
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Re: Restricted B permit & unemployment insurance payment

I have the same type of permit, but as I understand it, if I was to resign, I would have to leave the country - and have no rights to unemployment benefits, nor to searching for a job (as a non-EU). I have a permit because of my job, therefore, no job = no valid permit.

....so I guess it depends on your nationality.
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Re: Restricted B permit & unemployment insurance payment

@kiwigeek: I recently moved to Switzerland and have the exact same permit. My question is, basically, there is no benefit to people like me and you of the unemployment insurance? As we have to leave the country if we stop working for the country we are tied to.

Or in your experience is this different?
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