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G Permit - Permanent EC residence - Non EU Citizen

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This is Selvam from Germany. I am an Indian Citizen. I am a Computer Engineer.I have stayed in Germany for 5 years and recently got Permanent EC residence, which allows me to work in another EU country. Now am interested to live in German Border cities and work in Switzerland (Basel, Zurich region). I tried jobs with few agencies. But they are not sure that with Permanent EC residence, can i get G Permit for cross border.

Please let me know the procedure for getting the G Permit work visa in Switzerland who is already having Permanent EC residence and a Non EU Citizen. If any of you/your friends have done this in the past, please share the experience.

Expecting your valuable inputs.

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Re: G Permit - Permanent EC residence - Non EU Citizen

Your EU residency permit unfortunately does not help you in any way.


Wherever you live (and I think getting a G permit for a non EU is also linked to restrictions), your employer still would need to show that he/she cannot find a Swiss/EU person doing the job.
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Your EU residency permit unfortunately does not help you in any way.

Wherever you live (and I think getting a G permit for a non EU is also linked to restrictions), your employer still would need to show that he/she cannot find a Swiss/EU person doing the job.
This appears to be correct. Here is the link to Geneva's info:

https://www.ge.ch/moe/uk/procedures/...demande_et.asp

If I'm reading correctly, a non-EU with permanent residence could potentially qualify for a G permit, but the non-EU hiring process would be the same.

OP I guess your first step is to start applying for jobs. You won't get a permit without a job.
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Re: G Permit - Permanent EC residence - Non EU Citizen

Correct 3Wishes and roegner. Having permanent residence in an EU country does nothing for you in Switzerland because it's not part of the EU. To qualify for a G permit, not only will you need to find an employer willing to apply for the permit for you (they have to prove they can't find a Swiss/EU national who could do the job), but you would also have to have lived within a "border zone" for a certain period of time - at least 6 months and could be a year, iirc it varies from zone to zone.

Here's Zurich info on the subject.

http://www.awa.zh.ch/internet/volksw...nzgaenger.html

So first you'd have to move into the border zone nearest to where you want to find work in Switzerland and live there for at least 6 months. Then you could start applying to employers in hopes they'll try and get a G permit for you.

The non-EU hiring criteria is outlined here.

https://www.sem.admin.ch/sem/en/home...zulassung.html
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Re: G Permit - Permanent EC residence - Non EU Citizen

Hi Friends,

Thanks for your kind reply.

Am living in Freiburg (Postal Code - 79115) which is part of the Border Zone. Now my task is a found a employee who is willing to sponsor for my G Permit Visa.
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Hi Friends,

Thanks for your kind reply.

Am living in Freiburg (Postal Code - 79115) which is part of the Border Zone. Now my task is a found a employee who is willing to sponsor for my G Permit Visa.
Freiburg im Breisgau would be considered a Grenzzone address and would allow a Freiburg i.B. permanent resident to work in these Swiss areas:

"Die Kantone St.Gallen, Appenzell I.Rh., Appenzell A.Rh., Thurgau, Schaffhausen, Zürich ohne die Bezirke Affoltern und Horgen, Aargau ohne den Bezirk Muri, vom Kanton Graubünden die Bezirke Plessur, Imboden, Ober- und Unterlandquart sowie das Engadin, das Münstertal und die Gemeinde Samnaun, vom Kanton Bern die Bezirke Laufen, Moutier und Wangen, Basel-Stadt, Basel-Land, Solothurn."

http://www.bodensee-wirtschaft.org/P...halt_4.php#4_2

Yes, finding a job is the next step. This webpage lists many of the internet job boards in Switzerland:

http://aso.ch/de/beratung/rueckwande...hweiz/jobsuche
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Hi Friends,

Thanks for your kind reply.

Am living in Freiburg (Postal Code - 79115) which is part of the Border Zone. Now my task is a found a employee who is willing to sponsor for my G Permit Visa.
How long have you been there though. You must have been living in that area for at least 6 months to qualify for a G permit if you can find an employer to apply for you.
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Re: G Permit - Permanent EC residence - Non EU Citizen

Am living in Freiburg for more than 2 years.
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Am living in Freiburg for more than 2 years.
You are still considered nonEU. Your German permit and your geographical location so not help get past the nonEU hiring process.
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Re: G Permit - Permanent EC residence - Non EU Citizen

Hi Selvam,

It seems you have succeeded getting the G permit
I would appreciate if you could share your experience and give an insight about the process.

Kind Regards,

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Hi Selvam,

It seems you have succeeded getting the G permit
I would appreciate if you could share your experience and give an insight about the process.

Kind Regards,

Mohit
He never said that. Last heard he had a job offer, but whether it was successful or not we don't know.

As for you. If you're in Basel you don't need one. If you live in a neighouring country, have permanent residency there and live in a border zone then you may be able to get one.
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Re: G Permit - Permanent EC residence - Non EU Citizen

Thanks for your reply!
Appreciate it..

I am resident in France, stone's throw from Basel since last 10 years but I don't have the permanent card yet. I have a two year card.
Could I just prove my continual residence to the authorities or it has to be a permanent card?
Could you throw some light on the procedure to work as a self-employed IT consultant? Is it possible as a non Eu cross border or resident in CH.

As an IT consultant, I have virtually no investment to be done.

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Thanks for your reply!
Appreciate it..

I am resident in France, stone's throw from Basel since last 10 years but I don't have the permanent card yet. I have a two year card.
Could I just prove my continual residence to the authorities or it has to be a permanent card?
Could you throw some light on the procedure to work as a self-employed IT consultant? Is it possible as a non Eu cross border or resident in CH.

As an IT consultant, I have virtually no investment to be done.

Best
No permanent residence is a requirement.

"Third-country nationals will only be given a cross-border commuter G-permit, if they have a permanent residence permit in a neighboring country. They also need to have had their residence in the neighboring country’s border zone for at least six months and fulfill the labor market requirements. G-permits are usually valid for one year, and are limited to the border zone of the issuing canton. Third-country border commuters require permission to change jobs or occupations."

https://www.sem.admin.ch/sem/en/home...willigung.html

I don't think, reading that, you'd be able to get a G permit as a self-employed non-EU since permission from the Swiss authorities is required to change jobs.
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Re: G Permit - Permanent EC residence - Non EU Citizen

Greetings to All,
I hope I can ask my question here as it refers to same subject.
I have a German permanent residence and signed Swiss contract moving within same company, but I still live in other Bundesland. I understood that G-permit I can have only after 6 months living in border Zone. By the time of starting working in Switzerland I will be living in German border zone for 1 month. What can be the solution for my situation?
Many thanks in advance if I could have more information here!
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Greetings to All,
I hope I can ask my question here as it refers to same subject.
I have a German permanent residence and signed Swiss contract moving within same company, but I still live in other Bundesland. I understood that G-permit I can have only after 6 months living in border Zone. By the time of starting working in Switzerland I will be living in German border zone for 1 month. What can be the solution for my situation?
Many thanks in advance if I could have more information here!
Solution: move to Switzerland or find another job in Germany. 6 months is the requirement for a G permit. Without a Swiss permit you cannot work here.
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Re: G Permit - Permanent EC residence - Non EU Citizen

To be very clear on the whole G-permit for non-EU citizens (and this is a a general comment):

If as a non-EU citizen you have residence for the border zones of Germany or France and have lived there for 6 months, you are generally eligible for a G permit, but only in the most basic of terms.

HOWEVER: the hiring rules to actually get a permit are exactly the same as if you moved to Switzerland. The residence in Germany/France does not help at all with this and any employer would still need to prove the usual things he would need to prove.

Eventually, G permit is simply a different form of work permit for Switzerland, one that comes without a residence permit. But the remaining process remains the same.


@Yesya: then you have no chance and have to move to Switzerland. Or hope your employer will wait for you for half a year or more.
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Re: G Permit - Permanent EC residence - Non EU Citizen

G permit + non-EU = standard 3rd state hiring process.

In order to benefit from not being subject to the 3rd state hiring process you need to acquire an EU/ETA nationality. If my memory is correct, you can apply for naturalisation in France and Germany after 5 years' residence.
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Re: G Permit - Permanent EC residence - Non EU Citizen

Thank you all for answering!
I learned that there is available also something like international weekly residence. What are the requirements for it?
Naturalization in Germany is after 8 years plus process itself about a year
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Thank you all for answering!
I learned that there is available also something like international weekly residence. What are the requirements for it?
Naturalization in Germany is after 8 years plus process itself about a year
That is the G permit. There are only L, B, C and G permits, nothing else - not for your situation. Only G allows you to live in a border zone in a neighbouring country and commute to Switzerland for work. For the rest you have to live in Switzerland.
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Re: G Permit - Permanent EC residence - Non EU Citizen

Hi Yesya,
Did you manage to get G permit after 1 month of living in the border zone?

Our situation is slightly different. I am a German citizen and would like to live soon in Germany near the Switzerland border. My wife (non-EU citizen) would like to move to Germany with me and still keep working in Switzerland. She has a working contract for an additional few years in Switzerland.

Would she be eligible to apply for a G permit? Is there a way for her to get a G permit to make this possible? We would appreciate any recommendations.
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