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Citizenship requires uninterrupted residence?

We live in Vaud for almost 9 years with c permit. We plan to apply for the citizenship as soon as we are eligible for. My Swiss employer would like to send me to Singapore for a couple years. I know I could park my permit upto 4 years. I was wondering when we come back to Vaud, will the citizenship clock reset from year 0 or our prior 9 years of residence will be counted?

In addition, if I lost my job abroad while my permit is parked. Can I return to Switzerland without a job and get my permit back?
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Re: Citizenship requires uninterrupted residence?

What happens with a C permit when your Swiss employer sends you to work abroad is that you ask for it to be put on hold - this can be done for up to 4 years. In effect it is suspended until you return. If you apply for citizenship before you leave the process will also be suspended until your return, but the clock won't reset I don't think. What you'd need to check is the cantonal/communal requirements and whether there's anything about an uninterrupted residency or not. The current cantonal rules are here:

https://www.sem.admin.ch/sem/en/home...tzfristen.html

but bear in mind that there's a new Swiss naturalisation law due to come into force around 2017, though it may be delayed. Whether that will change any of your residency requirements you'd need to check.

If you lose your job while you're abroad I think you'd need to return pretty quickly and take up the residency again while you job search. You should be able to get it back, but only if you return quickly - as once your job is gone then I think you would revert to the situation whereby if you're out of Switzerland for more than 6 months the permit becomes invalid automatically. As you'd be working on assignment I assume the 6 month deadline would start once your contract with your current employer ends.
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Re: Citizenship requires uninterrupted residence?

Thank you for your kindly reply! it seems that if we took the offer, we will leave the country before applying citizenship [year 9 of residence]. We will put our C permit on hold. Will the authority give me a certificate saying how many years I could be abroad? Will they track what my job status is during the authorized out of country period? I thought as long as I came back on time, they would not care if I switch to a non- Swiss employer or become jobless. Please correct me if I am wrong.

In addition, does the current 12 years requirement for citizenship have to be entirely uninterrupted? I understand for the last 2-5 years, different community has different residence requirement. Let's take the most strict one as an example, 5 years uninterrupted stay before citizenship application. Say I have resided for 9 years, then I put my c permit on hold for 4 years. I came back on time and continue living in the community for 5 years. Will I be eligible for citizenship? Or I have to start from ground 0 and live for another 10 or 12 years depending the new law? Many thanks!





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What happens with a C permit when your Swiss employer sends you to work abroad is that you ask for it to be put on hold - this can be done for up to 4 years. In effect it is suspended until you return. If you apply for citizenship before you leave the process will also be suspended until your return, but the clock won't reset I don't think. What you'd need to check is the cantonal/communal requirements and whether there's anything about an uninterrupted residency or not. The current cantonal rules are here:

https://www.sem.admin.ch/sem/en/home...tzfristen.html

but bear in mind that there's a new Swiss naturalisation law due to come into force around 2017, though it may be delayed. Whether that will change any of your residency requirements you'd need to check.

If you lose your job while you're abroad I think you'd need to return pretty quickly and take up the residency again while you job search. You should be able to get it back, but only if you return quickly - as once your job is gone then I think you would revert to the situation whereby if you're out of Switzerland for more than 6 months the permit becomes invalid automatically. As you'd be working on assignment I assume the 6 month deadline would start once your contract with your current employer ends.
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Re: Citizenship requires uninterrupted residence?

I don't know the answer to the "uninterrupted residence" question.

But, if you are away for 4 years, then wait another 5 once back, in those 9 years the rules could totally change. If citizenship is very important to you, then you should stay in Switzerland and get it done.

Regarding the authorities "not caring" what you do once you put your C permit on hold, I can't imagine that this is the case. There are very few reasons that allow you to put the permit on hold, being sent overseas by Swiss employer being one of them. If this reason disappears, I would think that they would expect you to return.
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Re: Citizenship requires uninterrupted residence?

Under the new law the minimum years required will be 10, not 12 for non-EU nationals and as far as I know it doesn't have to be uninterrupted. This is the Federal law, but obviously cantonal/communal will also affect any application which is why you need to check with them what their current and possibly future laws on uninterrupted residency maybe. Part of the new law is that cantonal residency requirement will be between 2 and 5 years max - some cantons currently have longer than 5 years so they're having to change their cantonal laws to match. Whether any would make uninterrupted residency a requirement only they could tell you.

Yes, I think they'd give you some sort of document telling you how long the permit is on hold because it's not automatically 4 years. If your assignment is for only 2 years then that may be all they'll put it on hold for.

I agree with Island Monkey as far as losing your Swiss employer goes. The only 3 acceptable reasons for putting a permit on hold is being sent to work abroad by your Swiss employer, military service or further education. For anything else the default starting position is "no" and you'd need a REALLY good reason to get permission. If you lose your Swiss employer there's no reason for your permit to be held any longer so returning to Switzerland asap to job hunt from here should be your aim, if it comes to that.
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Under the new law the minimum years required will be 10, not 12 for non-EU nationals and as far as I know it doesn't have to be uninterrupted. This is the Federal law, but obviously cantonal/communal will also affect any application which is why you need to check with them what their current and possibly future laws on uninterrupted residency maybe. Part of the new law is that cantonal residency requirement will be between 2 and 5 years max - some cantons currently have longer than 5 years so they're having to change their cantonal laws to match. Whether any would make uninterrupted residency a requirement only they could tell you.

Yes, I think they'd give you some sort of document telling you how long the permit is on hold because it's not automatically 4 years. If your assignment is for only 2 years then that may be all they'll put it on hold for.

I agree with Island Monkey as far as losing your Swiss employer goes. The only 3 acceptable reasons for putting a permit on hold is being sent to work abroad by your Swiss employer, military service or further education. For anything else the default starting position is "no" and you'd need a REALLY good reason to get permission. If you lose your Swiss employer there's no reason for your permit to be held any longer so returning to Switzerland asap to job hunt from here should be your aim, if it comes to that.
That's good news if it doesn't need to be uninterrupted 10 years, so a few years in CH, a few years out, a few years back in CH work too.

Not familiar with the new law though, any catch need to be careful?

Seems with the new law, you need permit C first. Assuming you left CH and lost permit B or C, when you come back to CH, Still at least 5 years through VINTA to get C? Then it takes longer in total than old law.
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