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Non-EU, B permit expiring in 20 days, Extention possible?

Hey guys,

This is my first post on the forum so do pardon me if I sounds unfamiliar with the way things are done, or if I am repeating an already asked question. I have been going through the posts here, and they have been extremely informative especially when compared to the OCP website, including sparse queries to them over the phone (if I hit the 'they actually picked it up' jackpot).

I have been in Switzerland since May 2014 when I started a PhD at Unige. Come 2015 and I could not bear the academic straightjacket I found myself in, and decided to opt out. I ended my contract on Sept, 2015. I had already started looking for jobs around switzerland but it turned out to be insanely hard even with a masters. In any case I branched out to the rest of EU, and finally received a couple of offers and accepted one from Paris.

The company applied for a French work permit for me, end of March and they have no idea when the decision would come back. The prospective start date is 1 May, 2016. I would really rather wait for the result in Switzerland with my boyfriend (who I'm staying with), rather than take a >700 chf trip to India(the mothership) and back (add in some issues with parents).

My B, Non-EU permit, which has been renewed once last year, will be expiring end of april and I would like to extend it for a couple of months, while I wait for the hallowed portals of french bureaucracy to make their verdict.

OCP after flat out refusing, then was incredulous when I mentioned if I could instead apply for a tourist visa, suggested I go to the french embassy for the tourist visa since switzerland shouldnt have to worry about my french job or that I apply for an extension but not mention my french job (wait what?).

I also went to the French embassy, who after hearing about the job offer and the pending work visa stuff, flat out refused any sort of short stay visa to france, due to 'conflicts of visa processes' and 'the fear one might overstay if the work visa is refused' bs. So basically that rules it out.

Since everyone on the forum seems so well informed and nice, I figured that I'd type out the story of me against the machine and hope someone reads it just as they sit on the toilet, and with nothing better to do, responds and enlighten me to this...bureaucraziness?

Thanks in advance, any sort of reply/similar experience stories appreciated!
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Old 04.04.2016, 00:18
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Re: Non-EU, B permit expiring in 20 days, Extention possible?

First of all: I am not a professional on this.

The grounds to be entitled for a permit are very clear. I fail to see any of the grounds on which Switzerland should give you a new permit. The only reason you come up with is that you would like to wait in Switzerland to hear if a job in France will be given to you. This is absolutely not a good reason to get an extension. Work, income, capital, someone who is financially responsible for you, marriage are all reasons to stay here longer.

To get a tourist visa for France while your possible new company is currently applying for a working permit is also indeed a bad idea.

If your boyfriend has a permit and enough income and you live with him than you should try to stay here on the ground that he becomes financially responible for you, immigrationservice can tell you all about it.
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Old 04.04.2016, 07:01
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Re: Non-EU, B permit expiring in 20 days, Extention possible?

2 options I reckon.

1 apply for an extension to your Swiss permit. They will probably refuse it, but it would probably take a month or more before you hear and until you hear, you can stay.

2 apply for a tourist visa to the UK and chill out there for a month.
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Re: Non-EU, B permit expiring in 20 days, Extention possible?

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OCP after flat out refusing, then was incredulous when I mentioned if I could instead apply for a tourist visa, suggested I go to the french embassy for the tourist visa since switzerland shouldnt have to worry about my french job or that I apply for an extension but not mention my french job (wait what?).
Well they're right though, aren't they. How is it Switzerland's problem if you're waiting for a job/permit to come through in another country?

You have no "right" to stay here after the current permit expires, I'm afraid. You're not employed, you're not a student, you're not a Swiss' spouse, you're not a tourist. That unfortunately pretty much leaves nothing.

Do as they say. Apply for an extension and don't mention the job. I have my doubts though that you will hear anything before the current permit runs out, but Island Monkey is right, it will buy you time as you're allowed to stay in the meantime. However, if it is refused (which it probably will be), chances are you need to leave quite fast, so be careful with that option.

Or maybe, just maybe, fly somewhere else (non-Schengen) when your permit runs out, but apply for a tourist visa upfront and return. Not sure this one will work though.

Otherwise fly home and wait there. Sorry.
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