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Fired unexpectedly: visa and chomage

Dear all, I was fired unexpectedly while I was in the process to mve my residence to Switzerland. Somebody has experience about this? Here is the situation:

I am Italian
I was living in France and working as frontalier
On June 15th I moved in with some friends in Lausanne and I hadn't yet registered myself at the Office of Population
On June 21st totally unexpectedly I got fired
I have been working for the Swiss company for the last 18 months and my contract had a 2 months noticed period. So I will be employed until August 31st, but fired since June 21st.
Can I request a working permit B, so that from September I will be entitled to get the chomage, even if I am in my notice period (so basically my work is not "indeternminee" anymore)?
Or is there any other way I can be entitled for the chomage?
My employer is not willing to help me in any way because they owe me some money that they don't want to give, and this is their way to "blackmail" me.
But I do want my money and I cannot live and find a job here without chomage

Thank you very much for your help!
W.
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Old 27.06.2016, 18:02
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Re: Fired unexpectedly: visa and chomage

I assume you have a G permit?

"You are a cross-border commuter
If you live abroad and have a cross-border commuter permit (permit G) which allows you to work in Switzerland, you pay contributions into the Swiss unemployment insurance scheme. If you have to work short-time you receive compensation under the Swiss unemployment insurance scheme. If you lose your job you receive unemployment benefit in your country of residence but can benefit from the services of the public work placement scheme in Switzerland. In order to do this, contact the job centre in the region where you last worked."

https://www.ch.ch/en/foreign-nationa...d-switzerland/
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Re: Fired unexpectedly: visa and chomage

Thanks a lot, also for rapidity!
I do have a Permit G, but I was about to apply for a B Permit. As you said the B would entitle me for the Swiss unemployement, while with the G I can only get the Italian one (as I am from Italy). Do you know if there anyway I can still send in my application for the B permit?
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Old 27.06.2016, 18:23
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with the G I can only get the Italian one (as I am from Italy).
Actually, the French one, as you live in France.

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Re: Fired unexpectedly: visa and chomage

Thank you Tom, this is going to be a nightmare. As I don't speak French. Any suggestion on how to find info on the French unemployment?

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Re: Fired unexpectedly: visa and chomage

You'd be better off moving to Switzerland, the chomage will pay much better.

Italian frontaliers working in Ticino only get Italian chomage, which isn't much.

But, as you've been a frontalier until now, you probably won't get a full Swiss chomage if you move to Switzerland, so you have a lot of work to do, I'm afraid.

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...But, as you've been a frontalier until now, you probably won't get a full Swiss chomage if you move to Switzerland, so you have a lot of work to do, I'm afraid.
I think this is the challenge for OP. The Swiss authorities don't make it easy, because if they did, every frontalier that got fired or made redundant would just move here for the higher chomage.
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Dear all, I was fired unexpectedly while I was in the process to mve my residence to Switzerland. Somebody has experience about this? Here is the situation:

I am Italian
I was living in France and working as frontalier
On June 15th I moved in with some friends in Lausanne and I hadn't yet registered myself at the Office of Population
On June 21st totally unexpectedly I got fired
I have been working for the Swiss company for the last 18 months and my contract had a 2 months noticed period. So I will be employed until August 31st, but fired since June 21st.
Can I request a working permit B, so that from September I will be entitled to get the chomage, even if I am in my notice period (so basically my work is not "indeternminee" anymore)?
Or is there any other way I can be entitled for the chomage?
My employer is not willing to help me in any way because they owe me some money that they don't want to give, and this is their way to "blackmail" me.
But I do want my money and I cannot live and find a job here without chomage

Thank you very much for your help!
W.
If you've not yet officially moved to Switzerland then I think you're out of luck as far as unemployment payments are concerned and any chomage is going to be paid by France. Assuming you lived in France long enough to qualify there that is, otherwise it'll possibly be based on your previous italian contributions.

Go to see the unemployment people in Lausanne asap; http://www.lausanne.ch/lausanne-offi...mier-jour.html

Take a french-speaking friend with you if at all possible but quite a few of the counselors speak english and should be able to point you in the right direction.

This is the website for the frontalier association for French resident-Swiss workers that deals with queries such as yours but if you don't speak french I'm not sure they'll be of much use.... worth ringing and asking if someone speaks english or italian though.
http://www.frontalier.org/

There's almost certainly a italian equivalent but I'm afraid I can't think of the correct words to do google search for you. Perhaps someone down that way would know the swiss-italian cross-border group?

As an EU citizen it's possible to apply for a job-seekers permit, a search on the Forum should turn up the information for you.
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Re: Fired unexpectedly: visa and chomage

Yeah, I'm not sure they'd give you a B permit. Yes, you're employed now, but only for a couple of months so don't really qualify for a B which is for people with a contract running for more than a year. A 3 month L permit is more likely I think. If you don't find a job within that time you can ask for another 3 months and then another 3 months, for up to a year in normal cases. Of course whether they'll extend it for someone claiming unemployment I don't know.
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