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Old 27.06.2016, 19:58
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Post Brexit Dilemma

Im hoping that someone on here will be able to shed a little light on this situation..

So my husband is a British B permit holder who has been in Switzerland for 8 years. He is self employed and has a GmBH. We also own a property here. So here is the dilemma that we face post brexit.. My husband, due to the nature of his business is paid in pounds.. He has steadily watched his salary decrease over the years and now with brexit, and the chance that the pound could plummet even lower, there is a chance we may have to leave CH. As it will become too expensive to live here for him.

I am a non-eu citizen currently on a Spousal B permit with the right to work. Ive worked for about 6 years since I arrived. I currently work at one of the banks and am in a good position with a decent salary which I would be really hesitant to give up.. So here is the question..

If my husband moved back to the Uk, and got rid of his company here. Is there chance that I could stay and continue my job? Not for an indefinite period, but for at least a year or so. I would commute to the UK on weekends. I know that I would then need a non-permit and these are hard to come by.

Given that i have worked continuously for 6 years, have a decent job, pay taxes and speak German. Do you think that they would allow this? Or would this not even be an option. Im hoping someone can shed a bit of light as to whether this feasible. Would you advise perhaps speaking to a lawyer to find out options? Would be grateful for any inputs...
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Old 27.06.2016, 20:00
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Re: Post Brexit Dilemma

Why not apply for C permits so you can stay here even if he leaves?
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Old 27.06.2016, 20:10
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Re: Post Brexit Dilemma

He's not eligible for one as he doesn't speak German..When our permits were last up for renewal, they has just introduced the language requirement in Zug and as he wasn't able to provide a language certificate, they refused a B. I speak fluent German, but as im here as a dependant that doesnt count unfortunately...
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Old 27.06.2016, 20:15
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Re: Post Brexit Dilemma

I know this is not in the scope of what you asked ... But can be not charge his clients in CHF and/or find non UK clients ?

Isn't that the best way to grow his business? But anyway, if you have a good salary that can pay for you both you have some time for him to transition his business, no?

I agree with the c permit thing though. Time for hubby to start German lessons.
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Old 27.06.2016, 20:12
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Re: Post Brexit Dilemma

Can you stay and continue your job? No. Your permit is tied to his and if he leaves then you either have to leave too or your employer has to apply for a new permit for you under the non-EU hiring rules.

https://www.sem.admin.ch/sem/en/home...zulassung.html

Him/you applying for C permits would be a possible answer. Another is to change his currency of payment from pounds to francs. I assume he's paying most/all of his taxes here so I'm surprised he even bothered to keep being paid in pounds. The exchange rate over the years surely hit hard.
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Can you stay and continue your job? No. Your permit is tied to his and if he leaves then you either have to leave too or your employer has to apply for a new permit for you under the non-EU hiring rules.

https://www.sem.admin.ch/sem/en/home...zulassung.html

Him/you applying for C permits would be a possible answer. Another is to change his currency of payment from pounds to francs. I assume he's paying most/all of his taxes here so I'm surprised he even bothered to keep being paid in pounds. The exchange rate over the years surely hit hard.
I would need to ask them to apply on my behalf for a non eu permit. I know that they would be willing, but of course the decision lies with the kanton. We have looked at getting paid in francs, but the salary would remain the same as in pounds so he wouldn't be much better off.
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Old 27.06.2016, 20:16
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Would the fact that I've worked here for 6 years not count towards anything, or would be treated as anyone else coming here seeking a non-eu work permit?
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Old 27.06.2016, 20:18
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Would the fact that I've worked here for 6 years not count towards anything, or would be treated as anyone else coming here seeking a non-eu work permit?
You are changing permits so most likely, no. You were on a dependent permit and the new one would be yours so Id imagine the procedure is the same as for a new non-EU permit.
But Id definitely ask your employer to mention that you are here already!
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Would the fact that I've worked here for 6 years not count towards anything, or would be treated as anyone else coming here seeking a non-eu work permit?
If you got divorced, yes. Not recommending that! It would be better for the husband to learn German and get C permits!

Technically though he could leave and stay registered here with him coming hre for the weekends as opposed to you going there on the weekends.

I have to be honest ... Again not the scope of your question... But if he moved back and you stay here you will be paying for two households. How does that help the situation you guys are in?
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Old 27.06.2016, 20:25
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No, it counts for nothing. The permit application would be treated as a new one so the employer still has to prove they can't find a Swiss/EU national who could do the job.

You've surely lost a fair amount of money with exchange transactions so I think you should look at hard that and ask yourself whether staying with the pound is really the best. I know when I do a monthly transfer from Switzerland to the UK it costs me around 8 each time. Multiple that up by the presumably many payments your husband is receiving and you're losing a lot. And that's not taking into account losses with the actual exchange rates.
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