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UK citizen, expat contract, L permit. Any chance to change to B Permit

Hi,

Both my husband and myself are UK citizens and he was sent to Switzerland for 2 years (expat contract). The authority gave us L permit last October when we first arrived.

I wonder if there is any chance for us to change to a B permit (for house purchase). Has anyone on this forum done this before?

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Re: UK citizen, expat contract, L permit. Any chance to change to B Permit

Usually with a fixed term contract you get an L, open ended you get a B. Thems the rules so I assume his contract is fixed term?
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Re: UK citizen, expat contract, L permit. Any chance to change to B Permit

I doubt it. Not only are you on a fixed period contract, but it's not a local one either. He would need a contract with a Swiss employer that's for more than a year to be able to change to a B permit. The expat contract simply doesn't allow it.
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Re: UK citizen, expat contract, L permit. Any chance to change to B Permit

Thanks for the replies. So even being an EU citizen, he cannot get a B permit? We were definitely misled by the lawyers before we got here as they were so confident that we will be on B rather than L.
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Re: UK citizen, expat contract, L permit. Any chance to change to B Permit

If your primary concern is the ability to buy a house:

I hope someone who knows more about permits than I do will please correct me if I am wrong - but aren't EU citizens able to purchase property regardless of permit status?

See here:

https://www.ch.ch/de/immobilien-kaufen-als-auslander/

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You reside in Switzerland, EU/EFTA citizen

As EU/EFTA citizen residing in Switzerland you have the same rights as Swiss citizens to acquire property and do not need a permit.

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Again, this is an area where I have little experience, so please have someone who does know what he/she is talking about confirm/correct my (mis)understanding.

For an EU citizen, there isn't all that much downside to having an L permit.
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Re: UK citizen, expat contract, L permit. Any chance to change to B Permit

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I doubt it. Not only are you on a fixed period contract, but it's not a local one either. He would need a contract with a Swiss employer that's for more than a year to be able to change to a B permit. The expat contract simply doesn't allow it.
A global assignment is a local contract as the op will pay tax and social security here.
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Re: UK citizen, expat contract, L permit. Any chance to change to B Permit

"it all depends" - http://www.homes.ch/swiss-real-estate-for-foreigners
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A global assignment is a local contract as the op will pay tax and social security here.
Funny, on another thread where we were talking about someone leaving Switzerland on an expat contract, it was said they'd paid their taxes, etc, here and not in the other country. So which is it?

https://www.ch.ch/en/real-estate-foreign-national/

Of course whether a Swiss bank would lend you money when you're on an L permit I don't know. And it depends on where and what type of property you're talking about - a holiday home would need special permission for example, even for EU/EFTA nationals.

https://www.ch.ch/en/holiday-home/

And be aware that the tax on Capital Gains of any profit from the sale of property here is prohibitive if you sell within a few years of purchase - 50%+ or higher if sold within 5 years for example, depending on the canton.
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Funny, on another thread where we were talking about someone leaving Switzerland on an expat contract, it was said they'd paid their taxes, etc, here and not in the other country. So which is it?
generally in both, dependent on the contract. although there are also double-taxation agreements.
but don't worry for them. the employers generally take good care of them
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