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Sabbatical and RAV on a C permit

Hey all,

My work contract ended a few months ago and I have taken this time off without asking for RAV, I am on a C permit. I have now started looking for a job but would like to avoid asking for RAV if at all possible. If I run out of money, I have read that I can still apply for RAV as long as I worked for 12 months in the past 24 months.

This page however http://www.awa.bs.ch/stellensuche-ar...s-was-tun.html states that I have to go sign up at the RAV latest at the last day of my job.

Why is that? Am I not free to take a sabbatical? Is this obligation only meant in the sense that I can potentially get unemployment benefit penalties if I don't show up as soon as my contract ends?

Also, am I supposed to contribute to RAV while I am on a sabbatical?

Many thanks.
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Re: Sabbatical and RAV on a C permit

No, but as any RAV payments are based on your previous earnings, every month you don't work reduces any payment you may get. And as RAV's job is to get you back into employment asap you may also be penalised for not applying as soon as you knew your contract was going to end.

Obligations of an unemployed person

You are required to start looking for a new job while you are working out your notice period. If you are employed on a limited term contract, you are required to start looking for work three months before the employment is due to end. If you do not meet this obligation, your benefits may be trimmed.

https://www.ch.ch/en/unemployment-ri...d-obligations/
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Re: Sabbatical and RAV on a C permit

You will also be penalised for not looking for work from thae day you were given notice.

Money is based on the previous 6 months wages (or 12 months, if that is to your advantage).

So, if you take a year off, your RAV payments will be 0, 6 months off, 70% of 1/2 of your previous salary, etc.

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You will also be penalised for not looking for work from thae day you were given notice.

Money is based on the previous 6 months wages (or 12 months, if that is to your advantage).

So, if you take a year off, your RAV payments will be 0, 6 months off, 70% of 1/2 of your previous salary, etc.

Tom
Thanks for the input Tom, however after a bit of research it seems that this is not entirely true. This document http://www.treffpunkt-arbeit.ch/date....2015_V1.1.pdf article C15 states that the benefits are computed from the 6 last months (or 12 if better) of contributions to the RAV.

So regardless of the break, the benefits will still be computed from your 6 last paid months, as long as you have worked 12 of the 24 past months of course.

This person here seems to have done that https://www.englishforum.ch/2392377-post7.html
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Thanks for the input Tom, however after a bit of research it seems that this is not entirely true. This document http://www.treffpunkt-arbeit.ch/date....2015_V1.1.pdf article C15 states that the benefits are computed from the 6 last months (or 12 if better) of contributions to the RAV.

So regardless of the break, the benefits will still be computed from your 6 last paid months, as long as you have worked 12 of the 24 past months of course.

This person here seems to have done that https://www.englishforum.ch/2392377-post7.html
You should open a rahemnfrist ASAP, I believe Tom is correct, I had several almost consecutive rahemnfrists. From experience I do not believe what the poster you linked wrote. He has not logged in since January
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You should open a rahemnfrist ASAP, I believe Tom is correct, I had several almost consecutive rahemnfrists. From experience I do not believe what the poster you linked wrote. He has not logged in since January
As per my undestanding when you open a Rahmenfrist, if I understood correctly the "contribution" rahmenfrist extends to the past 24 months and determines if you have contributed at least 12 months among those. The "benefit" rahmenfrist extends to the next 24 months and determines the duration of your benefits.

The document that I linked to in the above post seems to indicate that the benefits are determined according to the 6 last months of contribution. Or did I misunderstand the document?

Feel free to correct me if I'm completely confused. By the way, I did find a job so that won't be a problem for me but I'm still curious and maybe others are too.
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