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Switching from B-permit without working to B-permit self-employed?

Hello

I'm an EU citizen and currently in Switzerland on a B-permit that allows me to stay based on financial resources. This permit does not allow work (even side work, as I understand it), but I am not prohibited from working in general, as an EU citizen, as long as I switch my permit to a B-permit working based on a job contract or otherwise.

I've received several consulting offers and want to register so to do these legally. I understand the procedures for registering as self-employed (i.e. submit business plan, sign up for AVS, show evidence of 3 clients etc, 6-month temporary B permit, etc.). My further understanding is that sometimes AVS refuses the registration if they think you don't have enough clients, a proper business address, etc. But as of what the cantonal office says on their website, I can start doing the consulting work immediately once I submit my paperwork (dont have to wait for AVS to approve).

My question is, if I apply for the B-permit for self-employment and for whatever reason it is denied, is there any reason for them to cancel my initial B-permit (not working)? Or is the self-employment permit is denied, I can assume I will keep the B (not working)?

Also, would it make any difference in terms of approving/fast-tracking the self-employment permit application in that I have already showed the cantonal office I can live here without working? As in, if one of the criteria for approving self-employment B-permit is that you can support yourself, and you have already showed I don't even need the contracts to support yourself, why would they deny the self-employment permit?

Thanks for your advice and kind consideration. A welcome to everyone in the forums.
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Re: Switching from B-permit without working to B-permit self-employed?

You need to show your taking risks and are indeed setting up a business. You could easily have ZERO clients, which would be the case if you were a plumber or about to open a kiosk. Taking risks would include renting an office, employing staff, advertising, website, buying stock, buying plant and machinery

Perhaps your just an employee who works for 3 companies even if just for 4 hours 1 day a year, you could still be an employee. If the work is carried out at a your clients location, using their equipment, during times they tell you to work your are a normal employee. If you have waited all day for a plumber who does not show up, you will the the difference between employment and self employment. A self employed does the work in a fashion and time to suit him, rather than at the whim of an employer.
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