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Recommendations for an immigration lawyer in geneva?

Hello all,

I am having a bit of a dispute with the Geneva OCP. I feel that an immigration lawyer could easily get my arguments accepted by the OCP, but if I try arguing with them I think they will simply just keep telling me "no".

Do you know any good English-speaking immigration lawyers in Geneva? I'm looking for a lawyer familiar with the non-EU cases and has experience with cases for people with advanced degrees.

Thanks for any recommendations,
-Erik
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Re: Recommendations for an immigration lawyer in geneva?

Why do you think an immigration lawyer could put the same arguments better than you? And why would OCP accept them from him instead of you?
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Sometimes its simply the structure of the language (I'd prefer to communicate in English, but that wouldn't help my case I suspect).

Sometimes its just the air of authority/intimidation. When its just some nobody that will get kicked out, its easy to plug one's ears and just say "no no no no"

Lawyers can often accentuate points by referencing previous court decisions/specific laws, etc.

An experienced lawyer may have many connections. They may know the boss of the particular examiner I'm dealing with. Many lines of experience suggest that if you find someone with the right connections, they can make issues go away - but you need to pay them to make them go away... and often that is exactly what a lawyer does.

Right now, the only argument with the OCP is about the meaning of 2 words in a set of directives for implementing a federal law.
The equivalents of those two words (with the meaning the examiner at the OCP ascribes to them) aren't even present in the German and Italian versions of the directives - as it concerns a federal law, those should be equivalent and have equal weight. It should be obvious that the meaning is not as the OCP is claiming.

Yet such arguments from me seem to be useless. The OCP's response is basically, "no you are wrong".

This seems to me like the perfect case for a lawyer to intervene, because they clearly aren't listening to me.
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Re: Recommendations for an immigration lawyer in geneva?

Well, I can only find one thread which gives a link to a lawyer in Geneva and it's fairly old. Still the link works so maybe give them a call.

Any Immigration specialist you recommend in Geneva ?
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Hi, I am have the same situation and I will like to know if you were lucky to find a lawyer? I need a free lawyer to help me with the OCP


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Sometimes its simply the structure of the language (I'd prefer to communicate in English, but that wouldn't help my case I suspect).

Sometimes its just the air of authority/intimidation. When its just some nobody that will get kicked out, its easy to plug one's ears and just say "no no no no"

Lawyers can often accentuate points by referencing previous court decisions/specific laws, etc.

An experienced lawyer may have many connections. They may know the boss of the particular examiner I'm dealing with. Many lines of experience suggest that if you find someone with the right connections, they can make issues go away - but you need to pay them to make them go away... and often that is exactly what a lawyer does.

Right now, the only argument with the OCP is about the meaning of 2 words in a set of directives for implementing a federal law.
The equivalents of those two words (with the meaning the examiner at the OCP ascribes to them) aren't even present in the German and Italian versions of the directives - as it concerns a federal law, those should be equivalent and have equal weight. It should be obvious that the meaning is not as the OCP is claiming.

Yet such arguments from me seem to be useless. The OCP's response is basically, "no you are wrong".

This seems to me like the perfect case for a lawyer to intervene, because they clearly aren't listening to me.
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Hi, I am have the same situation and I will like to know if you were lucky to find a lawyer? I need a free lawyer to help me with the OCP
You may get some free initial advice, after that it will definitely not be for free.
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You may get some free initial advice, after that it will definitely not be for free.
Thanks for replying. I will not mind to pay on after that as long as it isn't expensive. I am so depressed. Please kindly share a contact of a good lawyer if you have information about it.
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Hello all,

I am having a bit of a dispute with the Geneva OCP. I feel that an immigration lawyer could easily get my arguments accepted by the OCP, but if I try arguing with them I think they will simply just keep telling me "no".

Do you know any good English-speaking immigration lawyers in Geneva? I'm looking for a lawyer familiar with the non-EU cases and has experience with cases for people with advanced degrees.

Thanks for any recommendations,
-Erik
Hi there!

I know you posted this awhile ago, but I was wondering if you had any luck with the OCPM with an immigration lawyer? I am trying to sort out my B Permit and trying to get as much information as I can from non-EUs with similar experiences. Thanks!
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