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Changing cantons, [naturalisation years] reset?

Hello

Just a question came to mind:

I have a C permit (from eu origin) in kanton ZH, so more than 5yr here and less than the 12yr required for naturalisation.

I know that some kantons make you reset when you move. That's for B permit right ? I get to keep my C permit ?
I'm guessing that the countdown to naturalisation resets: so what are the kantons where I can move (from zurich) and keep my good citizen track record ?
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Old 28.01.2017, 11:45
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Re: Changing cantons, countdown reset

Only the cantonal/communal countdown will be reset. The cantonal and communal residence required varies from canton to canton and commune to commune so you'll need to check the requirements in your new place of residence.
The years already spent in Switzerland will still count towards the total number of years required for naturalisation. (12 now but 10 from 2018 onwards).

Your C permit shouldn't be affected.
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Old 28.01.2017, 12:15
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Re: Changing cantons, countdown reset

You will keep your C. This is the whole point of that you can settle freely wherever you wish.

In the future (exact date not known yet) to keep your C you must also show "integration".
https://www.admin.ch/opc/de/federal-.../2016/8899.pdf

Integration is defined as: No criminal record, respecting the Swiss constitution, knowledge of local language(at least A2), not be depended on social aid.

Also in the future (Starting from 1.1.2018) for naturalization you only need 10 years in Switzerland. On the other hand you must have a permit C.
Swiss Citizenship after 8 years? [Now 10 years]

Some cantonal residency requirements:
AG : 5 years
ZH: 2 years
SZ: 5 years
TG: 6 years
UR: 5 years

But most importantly because one does not become simply Swiss but first and foremost a citizen of its commune you have also to check the communes requirements as well. They can vary from 2 to 15 years !

All AG: 3 years
All SZ: 5 years
All TG: 3 years
All UR: 5 years
All ZH: 2 years (after 1.1.2018, proposal only so far)
Until 31.12.2017
City of Zurich: 2 years
Dübendorf: 15 years.

Some cantons allow a change of the commune during the process (SZ) some not (UR). Time from applying until getting Swiss citizenship can vary a lot. Anything under a year can be considerer as fast. Altdorf UR mentions on its website that it will take 3 to 4 years.
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Re: Changing cantons, [naturalisation years] reset?

Did the new citizenship law do anything to harmonise the communal residency requirements? I can't recall seeing anything. I know the cantonal ones are being harmonised to between 2 and 5 years, but not heard anything for the communes. Going to be a bit odd if you can get citizenship in 10 years, but for the fact that your commune requires 15 years' residency.
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Did the new citizenship law do anything to harmonise the communal residency requirements? I can't recall seeing anything. I know the cantonal ones are being harmonised to between 2 and 5 years, but not heard anything for the communes. Going to be a bit odd if you can get citizenship in 10 years, but for the fact that your commune requires 15 years' residency.

Thank you for pointing it out. After a the new law and the counter proposal from the SVP where dismissed by the people of Zurich in March 2012 a new ordinance is drafted. Looks like it will be just 2 years for every commune in Canton ZH.
http://www.aargauerzeitung.ch/limmat...nden-130795036

Right now the draft is open for comments by the public until March 31st 2017.
http://www.gaz.zh.ch/internet/justiz...rgerrecht.html
After that the cantonal government will react on the comments and may change some parts of it. The new ordinance comes into force on 1.1.2018
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Re: Changing cantons, [naturalisation years] reset?

What about the other cantons, any changes there?
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Cantonal requirements are being harmonised so that residency will be between 2 and 5 years max so I doubt Zug will change.

Details will appear here nearer the time the law comes into effect I guess.

https://www.sem.admin.ch/sem/en/home...tzfristen.html
Means some cantons must still change their regulations down to the maximum allowed 5 years.

Btw. here the new law: https://www.admin.ch/opc/de/federal-.../2014/5133.pdf
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Re: Changing cantons, [naturalisation years] reset?

Duh, I meant what about the other cantons' commune requirements? The link/info you posted only refers to Zurich. Are the other cantons also harmonising their commune residency requirements?
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Re: Changing cantons, [naturalisation years] reset?

According to what you have written in the other thread, and according what I read in the new law all commune requirements must be no more than 5 years starting from 1.1.2018.
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Re: Changing cantons, [naturalisation years] reset?

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Duh, I meant what about the other cantons' commune requirements? The link/info you posted only refers to Zurich. Are the other cantons also harmonising their commune residency requirements?
I wonder if the requirements for Graubünden have changed... Does anyone have any information about cantons modifying theyr cantonal requirements because of the new naturalization law?
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Re: Changing cantons, [naturalisation years] reset?

Well, currently it's 6 years for that canton so they'll have to change it to somewhere between 2 and 5 years as that's what's required under the new law. Here's the list of the current cantonal residency requirments:

https://www.sem.admin.ch/sem/en/home...tzfristen.html
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