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I'm 15, can I live in Switzerland?

Hello, I'm 15 and I'm doing software engineering. I know about 7 programming languages, and currently earning about 500$ a month by freelancing.
Can I be a citizen of Switzerland with this age? What do I need, like visa, passport? Thanks!
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Hello, I'm 15 and I'm doing software engineering. I know about 7 programming languages, and currently earning about 500$ a month by freelancing.
Can I be a citizen of Switzerland with this age? What do I need, like visa, passport? Thanks!
When you say you are "doing software engineering" do you mean you are studying? Could you see if your school can do an exchange programme? If not you would need means to support yourself and the ability to speak the language.
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When you say you are "doing software engineering" do you mean you are studying? Could you see if your school can do an exchange programme? If not you would need means to support yourself and the ability to speak the language.
I'm not studying it yet, but I will. I'm like a senior developer, I have worked with big companies as freelancer. I am in highschool 1 now. I can speak good English, but I think I'll learn German too. I really like Switzerland
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I'm not studying it yet, but I will. I'm like a senior developer, I have worked with big companies as freelancer. I am in highschool 1 now. I can speak good English, but I think I'll learn German too. I really like Switzerland
Hesapadim,

Good on you, 500/month is pretty impressive at 15!

Finish highschool first.
Do some post highschool qualifications, making sure that your diploma or degree is recognised here.
Learn German.
Discuss your plans with your parents. (yes, discuss it with your parents.)
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Hesapadim,

Good on you, 500/month is pretty impressive at 15!

Finish highschool first.
Do some post highschool qualifications, making sure that your diploma or degree is recognised here.
Learn German.
Discuss your plans with your parents. (yes, discuss it with your parents.)
Thanks for advice, what about visa and passport? I live in Turkey. What are requirements for being a Swiss citizen? Thanks!
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Old 29.01.2017, 16:35
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Thanks for advice, what about visa and passport? I live in Turkey. What are requirements for being a Swiss citizen? Thanks!
You won´t get into the country now, you are under age. JW gave you some good advice on what to do.

And what the requirements are when you are in principle allowed to reside here, check the forum part on permits?
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Thanks for advice, what about visa and passport? I live in Turkey. What are requirements for being a Swiss citizen? Thanks!
If you use the search function here on EF you will find lots of information about the visa process, as well as Einbürgerung (becoming a Swiss citizen).

Keep in mind that some of the details will change between now, and when you actually reach the point where coming here becomes concrete.
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You won´t get into the country now, you are under age. JW gave you some good advice on what to do.

And what the requirements are when you are in principle allowed to reside here, check the forum part on permits?
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If you use the search function here on EF you will find lots of information about the visa process, as well as Einbürgerung (becoming a Swiss citizen).

Keep in mind that some of the details will change between now, and when you actually reach the point where coming here becomes concrete.
Thank you so much, I'll look for it now. Let's learn German in this 3 year Thanks!
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Old 29.01.2017, 18:39
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Re: I'm 15, can I live in Switzerland?

a) Graduate from high school
b) if your German is good enough do a Bachelors and Masters at a Swiss university - cost between 21,000 and 31,000 Swiss Francs a year
c) You have 6 months to find a job where you're on equal footing with Swiss/EU nationals who have priority when it comes to hiring if you've graduated from a Swiss uni. If not, then you're at the back of the queue, sorry.
d) IF you're lucky enough to find a job, then you'll have to get a C permit before you can apply for citizenship.
e) Citizenship - C permit (language, integration, etc), 10 years' residency (Swiss school years between age 8 and 18 count double) and there is also a 2-5 year cantonal residency requirement too, not to mention the gemeinde ones.

So around the time you're 30 you might be able to do it.

These links will give you an idea of what you're up against.

https://www.sem.admin.ch/sem/en/home...zulassung.html

https://www.sem.admin.ch/sem/en/home...uergerung.html

Note the above is the current citizenship requirements, the new law comes into force on the 1st January 2018.

http://www.swissinfo.ch/eng/naturali...p-law/38821516

http://lenews.ch/2016/09/22/tough-ne...gh-parliament/

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Hello, I'm 15 and I'm doing software engineering. I know about 7 programming languages, and currently earning about 500$ a month by freelancing.
Can I be a citizen of Switzerland with this age? What do I need, like visa, passport? Thanks!
Looks like spam. I wonder if the IP matches turkey.
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Looks like spam. I wonder if the IP matches turkey.
Yes, it does.
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Looks like spam. I wonder if the IP matches turkey.
It does.

And until I see anything untoward, which given the enthusiasm I think is unlikely, then the OP is most welcome here.
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Re: I'm 15, can I live in Switzerland?

You probably want to use google-powered search only. Not that I'm a fan but the other types are useless. Literally.

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b) if your German is good enough do a Bachelors and Masters at a Swiss university - cost between 21,000 and 31,000 Swiss Francs a year
You make it sound like this is tuition cost - really? That's living cost, innit? Otherwise I'd like to see some references.

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Old 29.01.2017, 21:30
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You probably want to use google-powered search only. Not that I'm a fan but the other types are useless. Literally.


You make it sound like this is tuition cost - really? That's living cost, innit? Otherwise I'd like to see some references.
Yes, it's living costs - he's got to live doesn't he?

See bottom of page 14 here

https://www.swissuniversities.ch/en/...n-switzerland/

If he wants to study here then he needs to start saving some/all of that $500 a month he's earning.
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Certainly. But the topic of your b) is university and getting a bachelor or master, not living cost.
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Not much good having the tuition fee, if you can't afford to live here while you study. Wouldn't get a student permit for a start.
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Not much good having the tuition fee, if you can't afford to live here while you study. Wouldn't get a student permit for a start.
Well if I could got a job without a certificate, by looking to skills only I would not study. But almost all employers want certificate.


Let's say that I found a job without certification. Can I go Switzerland with my parent(s), and get that job when I am 15? Is there any laws about this?

Hard decisions
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Why did you think that?



Well if I could got a job without a certificate, by looking to skills only I would not study. But almost all employers want certificate.


Let's say that I found a job without certification. Can I go Switzerland with my parent(s), and get that job when I am 15? Is there any laws about this?

Hard decisions
You will not get a job without a uni degree. It's quite clear in the link I posted.

"Cadre, specialists and other qualified employees will be admitted. "Qualified employee" means, first and foremost, people with a degree from a university or institution of higher education as well as several years of professional experience. Depending on the profession or field of specialisation, other people with special training and several years of professional work experience may also be admitted."

At 15, despite what you may have in the way of experience, no employer would be able to hire you.

Nor could you bring your parents with you. For non-EU nationals it's only spouses and children under 18.

https://www.ch.ch/en/family-reunification/
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You will not get a job without a uni degree. It's quite clear in the link I posted.

"Cadre, specialists and other qualified employees will be admitted. "Qualified employee" means, first and foremost, people with a degree from a university or institution of higher education as well as several years of professional experience. Depending on the profession or field of specialisation, other people with special training and several years of professional work experience may also be admitted."

At 15, despite what you may have in the way of experience, no employer would be able to hire you.

Nor could you bring your parents with you. For non-EU nationals it's only spouses and children under 18.

https://www.ch.ch/en/family-reunification/
You said "you will not", is it legal? I mean I'm just 15 and know 7 prg. languages, it is really big advantage so I think a employer would hire & train me.
**Btw my dad is retired from military, so him and I can get green passport**
About last sentence, you mean I can go there alone, but not with my family?
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You said "you will not", is it legal? I mean I'm just 15 and know 7 prg. languages, it is really big advantage so I think a employer would hire & train me.
No, they won't. It doesn't work that way here.

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