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Question about Swiss citizenship

Good morning eveybody,

I'm a boy and now I am dating with a Swiss men. If I register the civil partnership with him, will the naturalization be faster? If it will be, how and how long could I have the Swiss citizenship? (Like do I need to live with him in Switzerland for a several years, I can't go abroad more than the ammount days, which is allowed,...)

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Re: Question about Swiss citizenship

Facilitated naturalisation is not (yet) available foreign persons in a registered partnership with a Swiss citizen, although there were votes last year in parliament aimed at removing this legal inequality.
As the current federal law stands, a foreign parter of a Swiss citizen may submit an application for ordainary naturalisation after having been in a partnership with the Swiss citizen for at least 3 years and after having been lawfully resident in Switzerland for 5 years. Bear in mind, however, that the requirements set by cantonal and municipal laws in your place of domicile regarding nationality will also need to be met.
Additionally you may wish to bear in mind that being in a registered partnership has certain legal disadvantages in Switzerland such as being unable to adopt children other than those already in the custody of your partner.
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Re: Question about Swiss citizenship

https://www.ch.ch/en/consequences-re...d-partnership/

Cantonal and communal residency requirements for citizenship are being harmonised under the new citizenship law to between 2 and 5 years.

Bear in mind that you will also need to have a C permit to be able to apply for citizenship.
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Bear in mind, however, that the requirements set by cantonal and municipal laws in your place of domicile regarding nationality will also need to be met.
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Cantonal and communal residency requirements for citizenship are being harmonised under the new citizenship law to between 2 and 5 years.

Bear in mind that you will also need to have a C permit to be able to apply for citizenship.
There are no Cantonal/Communal/C-permit requirements for facilitated naturalisation. Are they changing the law to allow those in registered partnerships to go through facilitated? What was the outcome of the vote?

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I have just read this, which seems contradictory. Do those in reg.par have a reduced time to apply, but still go through normal naturalisation process?

"Unlike marriage, being in a registered partnership does not facilitate naturalisation for the foreign partner of a Swiss national.
If you have been in a registered partnership for three years, it is enough to have lived in Switzerland for 5 years (including one year directly prior to application) to apply for Swiss citizenship. The same applies when both partners are foreign and one of them fulfils the criteria for naturalisation. For everything you need to know about naturalisation." https://www.ch.ch/en/consequences-re...d-partnership/

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Old 01.02.2017, 09:07
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Do those in reg.par have a reduced time to apply, but still go through normal naturalisation process?
Yes, I know someone who has done this.

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Yes, I know someone who has done this.

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So, what does that mean? No regualr basic questions about life and the relationship, but instead 1 hour of grilling on swiss laws, history, politics etc?
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So, what does that mean? No regualr basic questions about life and the relationship, but instead 1 hour of grilling on swiss laws, history, politics etc?
Yes and no. Each municipality will work slightly differently within each Canton's naturalisation framework, so there's no real way of giving you a clear answer; however, as you'd be applying as the partner of a Swiss citizen, it's likely they'd want to establish whether or not your relationship is genuine, i.e. they'd want to see whether or not you're trying to get around the usual 10-year rule.
This said, although I acknowledge our country is a little slow at times, I should hope that by the time you would be eligible to ask for naturalisation, that the law will have been finally changed to give a foreign registered partner of a Swiss citizen equal access to facilitated naturalisation. Who knows, maybe in 5 years' time Switzerland will have already legislated for same-sex marriage.
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Re: Question about Swiss citizenship

I think it has or will be changing to the same as married couples. I'm a girl married to a UK guy, and we are now requesting the forms, and at the bottom of the page was this PDF but in German only.

But unlike the UK, you don't have specific amount of days that you are allowed to leave the country or not. Facilitated naturalisation you need to have been living in Switzerland for 5 years, married for 3, and currently have lived in Switzerland for 1 year OR been married for 6 years and have close ties to Switzerland.

Here's the link to the Germand PDF

and here's the link to their FAQ page
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So, what does that mean? No regualr basic questions about life and the relationship, but instead 1 hour of grilling on swiss laws, history, politics etc?
I'll have to ask, but I believe all of the above, it just decreases the wait time, and the need for a C.

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https://www.ch.ch/en/consequences-re...d-partnership/

Cantonal and communal residency requirements for citizenship are being harmonised under the new citizenship law to between 2 and 5 years.

Bear in mind that you will also need to have a C permit to be able to apply for citizenship.
I read the text of the new nationality law some time ago, and I was not sure whether C permit will be needed for a regular naturalization in case if the applicant is in registered partnership with a Swiss partner... Hmm... let me read it again...
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I'll have to ask, but I believe all of the above, it just decreases the wait time, and the need for a C.

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Thanks, that would be great if you could look up the questions part in the case of your friend who also had the registered partnership here.
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I'll have to ask, but I believe all of the above, it just decreases the wait time, and the need for a C.

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Ridiculous! Why reduce the requirements for application to the same as facilitated, but not the process? I'd be interested to know if the price is the facilitated or normal price!
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Ridiculous! Why reduce the requirements for application to the same as facilitated, but not the process? I'd be interested to know if the price is the facilitated or normal price!
The process is ordainary naturalisation so it's the same price as ordainary naturalisation.
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Ridiculous! Why reduce the requirements for application to the same as facilitated, but not the process? I'd be interested to know if the price is the facilitated or normal price!
When the federal law on registered partner was adopted in 2007, some other laws were changed accordingly, to give registered partners the same rights. In most laws, it suffices to just adding "registered partners are treated the same as married couple", and then period. This was done to many laws, but not to the law on nationality. Federal government was always favorable for complete equal treatment in every domain (including naturalization), but at that time, it was considered as a difficult step to integrate registered partner into facilitated naturalization (some parties/cantons were not hot for it). Therefore, for the law of nationality, instead of adding "treated in the same way" and thus opening facilitated naturalization to registered partners, they adopted a compromise which looks a bit strange: reducing the federal requirement for registered partners in the ordinary naturalization to the same as facilitated naturalization. This is a far easier and quicker change, because it only touches the federal level (the cantons and communes' requirements are not changed).

This also means that the registered partners are not yet treated equally the same as married couples for naturalization, because all the cantons' and communes' requirements should still be fulfilled, which is not the case for facilitated naturalization, where federal government is the sole deciding authority (cantons and communes only have rights to appeal). Another difference is that, foreign married spouse of swiss citizens living abroad can be naturalized after 6 years' marriage (given in the facilitated naturalization track), but this is not possible for registered partners.
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Ridiculous! Why reduce the requirements for application to the same as facilitated, but not the process? I'd be interested to know if the price is the facilitated or normal price!
I agree. And I think the price is going to be in btw 1000-2000 instead of the 750. But that is a whole other matter. 😕
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