Hello everyone!

I just joined the forum


Instead of giving you a full story why, etc. I'm just gonna cut to the chase.

I just turned 18 in January. I have a High School diploma, and will start my apprenticeship as a computer scientist in August. (I technically had 3 gap years, 2 years internship, and 1 year language stays in the US and NZ). And after that I'm going to the army for another 2 years.

What's my best option to get hold of a green card and one day become a U.S. citizen?
I have an uncle and other relatives living there. doubt that'll help me though. And I'm also willing to join the Army (or any branch for that matter), if that'll get me anywhere lol. Actually I'd love to join.
Will try the DV-2019 lottery this year.

Cheers!



And yes, I'm sure.

And you are posting this on an english forum in Switzerland??

well, thought there may be someone out there that has experience with that sorta stuff.

Will obviously ask on other forums as well lol

Hi, welcome. I like your spirit
Yeah, there will probably be a few Americans here who might have an answer ... or a daughter

Why the heck would you even want one? It's a liability, not an advantage. People are trying hard to get rid of it, few succeed.

Yeah, my mom's work colleague just finally got rid of hers. Would've loved to trade lol.

The reason is I just wanna move away from Switzerland. It's a great country and all, but just not where I wanna spend my whole life at. A lot of my hobbies just aren't... you know, that nice here. Like shooting, probably the best exapmle. I love the beach, coasts, partiotism (I'm serious, I'd love to see some swiss patriotism... rarely any in existence...),... to each their own I guess.

You have to be a US citizen or Green Card holder to join the US army.

You won't qualify under the family option and may not do so under the job offer option either.

https://www.uscis.gov/sites/default/...urces/E2en.pdf

That will leave you with the lottery option only.

https://www.uscis.gov/green-card/oth...t-visa-program

That's assuming Trump hasn't cancelled the Green Card and other visa options altogether of course.

Patriotism? Shouting about how great the States are all the time doesn't do it for me, especially when it's always coupled with praying to God for this and that and the other. Just because your fellow Swiss don't shout it from the rooftops doesn't mean they're less patriotic than Americans. They just go about it more quietly - as do other countries.

For the rest: beaches, coasts, shooting - try Canada. Just as proud of their country as the Americans, but don't feel the need to shout about it all the time.

You love patriotism yet want to leave your own country and live elsewhere? That makes, uhm, a lot of sense really

How to get a Green card:

• immigration through a family member
• immigration through employment
• immigration through investment (from 0.5 to 1 million US dollars)
• immigration through the Diversity Lottery
• immigration through refugee or asylum status
• immigration through "The Registry" provisions of the Immigration and Nationality Act
• immigration approved by the Director of Central Intelligence

Here the best way: Get a Swiss Bachelor degree, apply for an U.S. Ph.D. program, get accepted, get the degree, work.
It is best because you aim for more than just a permit.

Or did you ask for the easiest way?

That is best, providing your job will support your green card application.

Yep that is kind of a contradiction lol.
I see more albanian flags that swiss hanging from windows and when I wanted to look for apprenticeships (was checking out a car dealership) I got made fun of because I was Swiss. lol. Not really an argument though.

But I grew up with a lot of America, if that makes sense, lots of relatives, etc. This whole "I don't like Switzerland" thing started at the age of 5. I never quite identified as a Swiss guy to be honest. All my stuff is in English, I specifically buy stuff from there, constantly forget words in German,...
yeah I'm a weird guy. My friends first thought I was crazy, but now they actually kinda support me.

I might actually be able to be offered a job in Connecticut, because my uncle owns the business. Are there any regulations? In terms of what jobs, size of the business, anything like that?

Not that I can see from the link I posted, only the criteria for what the prospective employee has to have.

"EB-1–Priority Workers
• Aliens with extraordinary ability in the sciences, arts, education, business, or athletics;
• Outstanding professors and researchers;
• Multinational executives and managers.

EB-2 – Professionals With Advanced Degrees or Persons With Exceptional Ability
• Aliens who, because of their exceptional ability in the sciences, arts, or business, will substantially benefit the national economy, cultural, or educational interests or welfare of the United States;
• Aliens who are members of professions holding advanced degrees or the equivalent.

EB-3 – Professional or Skilled Workers
• Professionals with a baccalaureate degree;
• Aliens capable of performing skilled labor (requiring at least 2 years of training or experience) for which qualified workers are not available in the United States;
• Aliens capable of performing unskilled labor for which qualified workers are not available in the United States."

From that the only possibilities are under EB-3 though I'm not sure your high school diploma/apprenticeship would equate to a baccalaureate degree. Otherwise the last - aliens capable of performing unskilled labor for which qualified workers aren't available - may be possible though what sort of jobs would be available under that heading I've no idea. Even fruit/crop picking needs skill to do it quickly and efficiently. So you may not qualify under any of the options.

Frankly that last category makes no sense to me whatsoever. How can you be qualified to be an unskilled worker?

Marry an American.

Tom

When I finish my apprenticeship, I could add another year and do the "Matura" and take a test in Berne afterwards. If I pass that, Well then I've got a Baccalaureate. If that's really the best way, I might go for it.

After I take that and got my degree, what comes afterwards?
What exactly is that program that aSwissInTheUS mentioned?

Make sure you fit into this bracket:

Aliens capable of performing skilled labor (requiring at least 2 years of training or experience) for which qualified workers are not available in the United States;
Aliens capable of performing unskilled labor for which qualified workers are not available in the United States."

Google is your friend: https://www.google.ch/search?q=U.S.+Ph.D.+program&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-b&gfe_rd=cr&ei=4AzgWMDuPO2A8Qfolor4Bg

So can someone clarify what I need to do after I've received my Baccalaureate? Apply for that program, and what comes after that?
I'm kinda lost here

No one can say for sure. It depends on what you do, how you do it. And all might change with this new president.

Why not concentrate on doing what you like, excel in it, get to be an expert and then see further?

You're funny. I wanted to do what you wanna do I would have to google/research it too.
You do know the "American dream" bases on putting up your sleeves and DO things, yes? Not on waiting for others to provide

a PhD program takes what, 7 years? I'm all in for that but after hours of research I can't find a definite answer. Do I still need to be one of those:
"Aliens capable of performing skilled labor (requiring at least 2 years of training or experience) for which qualified workers are not available in the United States;
Aliens capable of performing unskilled labor for which qualified workers are not available in the United States."?

I'm sorry, my head's burning. I might look at this thread tomorrow and be ashamed to death lol