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UK visa non-EU/UK child of UK citizen??

Hi
I am a British citizen living in Switzerland, my wife and kids have South African passports and B permits.
Do they need a visa for the UK if they are travelling with me to the UK?
Thanks for any advice
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Old 18.04.2017, 17:46
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Re: UK visa non-EU/UK child of UK citizen??

Yes, because the UK isn't part of Schengen.

https://www.gov.uk/apply-uk-visa

They may need to attend an interview as part of the process.
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Re: UK visa non-EU/UK child of UK citizen??

Thanks Medea...
So the fact I'm a British citizen with UK passport etc... does count for anything?
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Old 18.04.2017, 18:11
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Thanks Medea...
So the fact I'm a British citizen with UK passport etc... does count for anything?
Yes. Your kids can get British passports (but you have to do things in the correct order to retain SA citizenship).
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Re: UK visa non-EU/UK child of UK citizen??

hi Tom
Unless I'm mistaken they cant get British passports because I was born in South Africa and got my passport through my parents being British (English father and Irish mother).
We are looking at them getting Irish passports.
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Old 18.04.2017, 18:29
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hi Tom
Unless I'm mistaken they cant get British passports because I was born in South Africa and got my passport through my parents being British (English father and Irish mother).
We are looking at them getting Irish passports.
You should get the Irish citizenship thing sorted asap. Was your mother born in Ireland? If she was then you are automatically an Irish citizen and can just make a passport application (worth it now Brexit is happening).

Your kids will have to apply for citizenship by the looks of it, might be easier if you have the passport.

http://www.citizensinformation.ie/en...r_descent.html
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Old 18.04.2017, 18:55
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Re: UK visa non-EU/UK child of UK citizen??

As far as I can see no your children don't qualify for British citizenship.

And no, in this instance your British citizenship counts for nothing, except it might be slightly easier for your dependents to get visas to visit the UK.
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Old 18.04.2017, 19:11
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Re: UK visa non-EU/UK child of UK citizen??

There is a long wait for Irish passports thesê days, due to Brexit. Supposedly there has been a 70% increase in Brits suddenly discovering they have Irish blood running in their veins!!
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Old 18.04.2017, 20:33
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There is a long wait for Irish passports thesê days, due to Brexit. Supposedly there has been a 70% increase in Brits suddenly discovering they have Irish blood running in their veins!!
It's a fact! There are the stats.
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Re: UK visa non-EU/UK child of UK citizen??

Hi

Any advice on family visitor visa without fees for family members of a UK citizen?

We are in the exact situation as you Jason; my husband has a UK passport by descent and my son and I have South African passports. Have you already applied for visitor visas for your family? I have a (very expensive) 5 year visitor visa and my son had a 6 month one which has now expired. When we applied and paid for his visitor visa I was told that it is possible in the future to get a family visitor visa without paying the visa fees.
Does ANYBODY know how to do this??????
There is no option on the website and an email to the customer service received a formulated unhelpful reply.
I don't want to have to pay again if there is an alternative. (Especially since his first visa arrived only after 3 weeks even through we paid the priority service and we missed our flights anyway).

Thanks in advance for any advice...
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Old 30.05.2017, 14:59
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Re: UK visa non-EU/UK child of UK citizen??

Why would you not have to pay the visa fee again? Every time a visa runs out you have to buy a new one. You were given bad info. Apply for a new visa for your son.
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Re: UK visa non-EU/UK child of UK citizen??

I was told at the at the visa centre in December last year that there is a possibility for family members of British citizens to apply for a visitor visa and be exempt from the fees. He (an employee) said that in the future I should apply for the family visitor visa instead of the standard visitor visa and that it could be found on the website under 'other'. Unfortunately I didn't press him to show me exactly where and how because now I cannot find anything and, of course, you can't just pop in and have a chat. I understand each time the visa runs out one has to start a fresh application so I just want to know if anyone has experience receiving a family visa without fees.
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Re: UK visa non-EU/UK child of UK citizen??

For non EU Passport ,, how long will it take to get Irish "visit" visa? (after submission of all papers) Any experience?
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Old 30.05.2017, 18:40
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I was told at the at the visa centre in December last year that there is a possibility for family members of British citizens to apply for a visitor visa and be exempt from the fees. He (an employee) said that in the future I should apply for the family visitor visa instead of the standard visitor visa and that it could be found on the website under 'other'. Unfortunately I didn't press him to show me exactly where and how because now I cannot find anything and, of course, you can't just pop in and have a chat. I understand each time the visa runs out one has to start a fresh application so I just want to know if anyone has experience receiving a family visa without fees.
Sorry, but

"The Standard Visitor visa has replaced the:

•Family Visitor visa
•General Visitor visa
•Child Visitor visa
•Business Visitor visa, including visas for academics, doctors and dentists
•Sports Visitor visa
•Entertainer Visitor visa
•Prospective Entrepreneur visa
•Private Medical Treatment Visitor visa
•Approved Destination Status (ADS) visa"

https://www.gov.uk/standard-visitor-visa

Again, you were given incorrect info. You'll need to apply for a standard visitor visa and pay for it.
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Old 30.05.2017, 22:24
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I was told at the at the visa centre in December last year that there is a possibility for family members of British citizens to apply for a visitor visa and be exempt from the fees. He (an employee) said that in the future I should apply for the family visitor visa instead of the standard visitor visa and that it could be found on the website under 'other'. Unfortunately I didn't press him to show me exactly where and how because now I cannot find anything and, of course, you can't just pop in and have a chat. I understand each time the visa runs out one has to start a fresh application so I just want to know if anyone has experience receiving a family visa without fees.
If you go to your spouse's home country, your visa is not free.
If you go to another EU country, then your visa should be free.

Assuming you are traveling with you spouse.
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Ah, is that what it is miniMia? That would explain the confusion.
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Ah, is that what it is miniMia? That would explain the confusion.
Yes. But note, this site says 'might be charged'. So maybe the OP should ask again just in case.

"Applying for a visa

If your non-EU family members need an entry visa, they should apply for one in advance from the consulate or embassy of the country they wish to travel to. If they will be travelling together with you, or joining you in another EU country, their application should be processed quickly and free of charge:

Countries which are members of the border-free Schengen area should issue visas within 15 days, except in rare cases, when the authorities should provide an explanation of their decision.
All other countries (Bulgaria, Croatia, Cyprus, Ireland, Romania, UK) should issues visas as quickly as possible.
The documents your family members need to include in their visa application may vary from country to country. Before travelling, check which these are with the consulate or embassy of the destination country.

Visas issued by a country belonging to the border-free Schengen area are valid for all countries in that area.

If you reside outside the EU and your non-EU family members accompany you or travel to the EU country of your nationality, EU cross-border rules do not necessarily apply and visa fees might be charged."


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Re: UK visa non-EU/UK child of UK citizen??

Thanks guys. It's true you don't need to pay for Schengen visas, I discovered that years ago but we no longer need Schengen visas as we travel in Europe with our B permits.
I also see on the visa4uk website that the standard visa replaces all the other types, but I was expressly told by this employee that there was a way for family members to get an alternative visa and that I should specifically not just apply for the standard one in the future. I'll put it down to incorrect info and just suck it up and pay the damned fee. Just hope it arrives in time as the last visa arrived after our scheduled trip.
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hi Tom
Unless I'm mistaken they cant get British passports because I was born in South Africa and got my passport through my parents being British (English father and Irish mother).
We are looking at them getting Irish passports.
You'd need to go down the Foreign Birth Registration route, which is longer and more costly than just a simple passport application (they'd be applying via their Irish-born grandparent, not parent).
A British passport would be possible if you have ever lived in the the UK for three consecutive years.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Britis...hip_by_descent
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If you go to your spouse's home country, your visa is not free.
If you go to another EU country, then your visa should be free.

Assuming you are traveling with you spouse.
They seem to be talking about so-called 'Surinder Singh' visas, for non-ERA family members of a UK (or other EEA/Swiss) citizen visiting or moving to his/her home country with their EEA sponsor https://www.gov.uk/family-permit/surinder-singh
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