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My partner is moving to France (ferney Voltaire) , is it gonna cause me problem?

We were partenariat enregistré in March 2017
I have been living in Geneva about 3 years

My B permit is still with my ex ,
Pacs with him in 2015
But soon it's gonna change to B permit with my new one.

Lately my partner wanna move there and
he has done all the process but
I don't really know what is going to be with my B permit

He wanted to put my address with his mum which is in Satigny GEneve ,
Because I am going to be student in university of Geneva.
And I will live 2 place

Is it possible to do that
I need to change my permit or I will lost it
Or I need to ask permit in France
And what if I want to ask for naturisation after 5 years
Is it still possible?

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Old 12.05.2017, 16:03
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Re: My partner is moving to France (ferney Voltaire) , is it gonna cause me problem?

Sorry, you need to be clearer.

Your permit is still tied to your ex? Meaning what exactly? Was he Swiss, EU, non-EU? Were you married or not? If yes are you now divorced?

Of course if you move to France, naturalization in Switzerland will not be an option as you don't live in this country.

To answer the rest, more input is needed.
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Re: My partner is moving to France (ferney Voltaire) , is it gonna cause me problem?

Yes we already divorced
He is Belgian with C permit when we were partner
Now I m married with New one

But I am also student in university of Geneva
And I don't wanna lost my B permit
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Re: My partner is moving to France (ferney Voltaire) , is it gonna cause me problem?

If you're married you won't lose the permission to be in this country per se, though I'm still confused why your permit is tied to your ex rather than your current husband

What's the nationality of your new husband?
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Re: My partner is moving to France (ferney Voltaire) , is it gonna cause me problem?

You will lose the B if he leaves Switzerland.

But first you have to get it to lose it.

The B you have is invalid as you are divorced.

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Re: My partner is moving to France (ferney Voltaire) , is it gonna cause me problem?

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If you're married you won't lose the permission to be in this country per se
If the main person leaves the country, then yes the dependent will lose it.

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If the main person leaves the country, then yes the dependent will lose it.

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Yes you're right, I wasn't clear with that statement. I was referring to the G (which to me is also a permit for CH in a way) that she would probably get depending on the husband's nationality or permit status, but of course it's not one that would allow her to stay IN the country in that sense, let alone ever apply for naturalization.

Agree with everything else, looks like the current permit is invalid anyway.
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If the main person leaves the country, then yes the dependent will lose it.

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So what I should do for this situation
Being student in university of Geneva cannot hold the permit to using B permit
Or it needs to change to student B permit?

Or I need to ask for French permit?

And what about to get naturisation if I got French permit?
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Re: My partner is moving to France (ferney Voltaire) , is it gonna cause me problem?

I am curious to know how he was able to hold such long the permit of family reunion after divorce. The court notifies immediately the immigration office once the divorce is executive if foreigner is involved. I am even more curious to know how the office d'état civil of Geneva registered his second partnership when he held a permit which was tied to the first partnership. At least in Valais, a foreigner who divorced must get the new permit sorted out before being able to marry again. A permit tied to previous marriage is clearly invalid to establish a new marriage.
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So what I should do for this situation
Being student in university of Geneva cannot hold the permit to using B permit
Or it needs to change to student B permit?

Or I need to ask for French permit?
Again, what's your current husband's nationality and/or permit status?

Also, I think you have a slightly naive view of how all this works. You don't just randomly ask for permits wherever you please. There are rules and regulations that you need to follow, in every country. In your case, something is already clearly not the way it should be.

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Naturalisation in Switzerland while living in France with a French permit?? Of course not. Why would anyone give you a passport at some point for a certain country if you don't even live there?

Naturalisation for France on a French permit - best to ask in a French forum what the conditions for that are.

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I am curious to know how he was able to hold such long the permit of family reunion after divorce. The court notifies immediately the immigration office once the divorce is executive if foreigner is involved. I am even more curious to know how the office d'état civil of Geneva registered his second partnership when he held a permit which was tied to the first partnership. At least in Valais, a foreigner who divorced must get the new permit sorted out before being able to marry again. A permit tied to previous marriage is clearly invalid to establish a new marriage.
Indeed, very strange.
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Re: My partner is moving to France (ferney Voltaire) , is it gonna cause me problem?

Let's try to get some clarity.

1. Divorced from first partner in 2015. So first permit is null and void.

2. Assuming your username denotes gender and you refer to your new partner as "he" how could you register a same-sex partnership (partenariat enregistré) here?

3. If he moves to France you have to as well because your permit is dependent on his. The only way you could then study at Geneva is to apply for a student permit yourself which means you would have to continue to live in Switzerland. Non-EU's can't do cross border for study purposes.

4. If you move to France then yes, you will have to register there and get a French permit. Not sure which country you're talking about for naturalisation, but if it's Switzerland then sorry, but won't be possible as you're no longer in the country unless your new partner is Swiss.
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2. Assuming your username denotes gender and you refer to your new partner as "he" how could you register a same-sex partnership (partenariat enregistré) here?
She later says she remarried.

Though I was confused by that as well. Well I'm confused about this story in general.

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Let's try to get some clarity.

1. Divorced from first partner in 2015. So first permit is null and void.

2. Assuming your username denotes gender and you refer to your new partner as "he" how could you register a same-sex partnership (partenariat enregistré) here?

3. If he moves to France you have to as well because your permit is dependent on his. The only way you could then study at Geneva is to apply for a student permit yourself which means you would have to continue to live in Switzerland. Non-EU's can't do cross border for study purposes.

4. If you move to France then yes, you will have to register there and get a French permit. Not sure which country you're talking about for naturalisation, but if it's Switzerland then sorry, but won't be possible as you're no longer in the country unless your new partner is Swiss.
4. Even if his new partner is swiss he will not be able to apply for naturalization if they do not reside in switzerland (facilitated naturalization does not apply, and shortened ordinary naturalization due to partnership requires residence).
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2. Assuming your username denotes gender and you refer to your new partner as "he" how could you register a same-sex partnership (partenariat enregistré) here?
OP is transgender, so that complicates things.

https://www.englishforum.ch/2443825-post1.html

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She later says she remarried.

Though I was confused by that as well. Well I'm confused about this story in general.
I think OP's official gender is male, and socially he behaves as a girl.
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She later says she remarried.

Though I was confused by that as well. Well I'm confused about this story in general.
Another thread from a couple of years ago, helps a bit.

https://www.englishforum.ch/permits-...ere-after.html
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Ah ok, thanks everyone.

I should have done some research
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I should have done some research


Hhhm, no? Why?


OP could have been a tat more clear and that would have made answering the question a bit easier.
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Hhhm, no? Why?

OP could have been a tat more clear and that would have made answering the question a bit easier.
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I am curious to know how he was able to hold such long the permit of family reunion after divorce. The court notifies immediately the immigration office once the divorce is executive if foreigner is involved. I am even more curious to know how the office d'état civil of Geneva registered his second partnership when he held a permit which was tied to the first partnership. At least in Valais, a foreigner who divorced must get the new permit sorted out before being able to marry again. A permit tied to previous marriage is clearly invalid to establish a new marriage.
Well you have time to re-married again with your B from your ex
If you lost It you need to go back to your country and ask marriage visa

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Let's try to get some clarity.

1. Divorced from first partner in 2015. So first permit is null and void.

2. Assuming your username denotes gender and you refer to your new partner as "he" how could you register a same-sex partnership (partenariat enregistré) here?

3. If he moves to France you have to as well because your permit is dependent on his. The only way you could then study at Geneva is to apply for a student permit yourself which means you would have to continue to live in Switzerland. Non-EU's can't do cross border for study purposes.

4. If you move to France then yes, you will have to register there and get a French permit. Not sure which country you're talking about for naturalisation, but if it's Switzerland then sorry, but won't be possible as you're no longer in the country unless your new partner is Swiss.

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Yes he is swiss

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OP is transgender, so that complicates things.

https://www.englishforum.ch/2443825-post1.html

Tom
I don't see what is complicated thing
Being gay or transgender
It will made the situation worse?

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