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The second year extension of L permit

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I want to ask a question, is there anyone who had only one year L permit and in the second year got a B permit?
As I know that you will get 2 years L permit and then you will be able to get a B permit.

If there is, how you handle this process? Because of high salary or language proof or ? The company where I work, already applied for B permit last year but the gemeinde did not give me B..

I am going to extend my L work permit soon and maybe I can get a B permit in my second year. (Actually, I was a student until last year and i entered Switzerland in 2014 with B permit)

L permit causes several problems. For example, I pay more car insurance (about 200 chf more) and when i go germany and buy something,i cant get tax refund, difficult to find flat and also job)..

I am open for all ideas
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Re: The second year extension of L permit

You can potentially be on an L-permit forever. I know of a girl who was on an L-permit for 12 years, renewing it for herself and later her daughter year after year.
If you wish to upgrade to a B-permit then you need to request this at your next renewal. It is by no means automatic!

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Re: The second year extension of L permit

Are you EU or non EU? Big difference here
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Re: The second year extension of L permit

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You can potentially be on an L-permit forever. I know of a girl who was on an L-permit for 12 years, renewing it for herself and later her daughter year after year.
If you wish to upgrade to a B-permit then you need to request this at your next renewal. It is by no means automatic!
Ohh its not good. But I heard that after the second year, you probably get B permit. I do not know what are the conditions but I see many people here had like that..

I did not understand, should I request? or the company should request for me?

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Re: The second year extension of L permit

If you are non EU and assuming your permit is tied to your employer, you cannot apply for a permit, your employer needs to do that. Keep in mind there have been stories of L permits not being extended due to a required "cooling off" period of 12 months (has been discussed here, canīt find the link right now).

Link: http://www.internationallawoffice.co...in-Switzerland
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Re: The second year extension of L permit

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If you are non EU and assuming your permit is tied to your employer, you cannot apply for a permit, your employer needs to do that. Keep in mind there have been stories of L permits not being extended due to a required "cooling off" period of 12 months (has been discussed here, canīt find the link right now).

Link: http://www.internationallawoffice.co...in-Switzerland
ohh that is not a good news. I did not hear anything about it..

Well I still do not know what i should do? The company has to apply ? Do I not need extention form or what? Becuse last year, I got an extension form and i gave it to the company and they applied to BECO and after i went the migration office to get my permit and they gave me L permit.
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You can potentially be on an L-permit forever. I know of a girl who was on an L-permit for 12 years, renewing it for herself and later her daughter year after year.
If you wish to upgrade to a B-permit then you need to request this at your next renewal. It is by no means automatic!
She's likely on a contract of less than a year which is why she only gets an L. And she must be an EU national because otherwise she can't do it herself.

The law is quite clear for non-EU nationals.

"Chapter 6 Regulation of the Period of stay

Art. 32 Short stay permit

1 The short stay permit is granted for limited periods of stay of up to one year.

2 It is granted for a specific purpose of stay and may be made subject to additional conditions.

3 It may be extended by up to two years. A change of job is only possible for good cause.

4 The short stay permit may only be granted again after an appropriate interruption of stay in Switzerland."

https://www.admin.ch/opc/en/classifi...232/index.html

You would do the same as you did before, give the extension form to your employer. You could ask them to try for a non-EU B permit, but they may decide not to if they feel they have no chance of getting one.
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She's likely on a contract of less than a year which is why she only gets an L. And she must be an EU national because otherwise she can't do it herself.

The law is quite clear for non-EU nationals.

"Chapter 6 Regulation of the Period of stay

Art. 32 Short stay permit

1 The short stay permit is granted for limited periods of stay of up to one year.

2 It is granted for a specific purpose of stay and may be made subject to additional conditions.

3 It may be extended by up to two years. A change of job is only possible for good cause.

4 The short stay permit may only be granted again after an appropriate interruption of stay in Switzerland."

https://www.admin.ch/opc/en/classifi...232/index.html

You would do the same as you did before, give the extension form to your employer. You could ask them to try for a non-EU B permit, but they may decide not to if they feel they have no chance of getting one.
Thank you so much for your reply. I will do like what i did same as previous .. I just need the form now..
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Re: The second year extension of L permit

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She's likely on a contract of less than a year which is why she only gets an L. And she must be an EU national because otherwise she can't do it herself.
Correct, she is EU and did it herself. Her contract was always renewed every 10 or 11 months. She has since progressed, finally, to a B-permit and so has the daughter!

You will see, if you check, that the OP had not revealed whether they were EU or non-EU when I posted!
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Re: The second year extension of L permit

Their first post makes it quite clear.

"I want to ask a question, is there anyone who had only one year L permit and in the second year got a B permit?
As I know that you will get 2 years L permit and then you will be able to get a B permit.

If there is, how you handle this process? Because of high salary or language proof or ? The company where I work, already applied for B permit last year but the gemeinde did not give me B.."
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Re: The second year extension of L permit

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Their first post makes it quite clear.

"I want to ask a question, is there anyone who had only one year L permit and in the second year got a B permit?
As I know that you will get 2 years L permit and then you will be able to get a B permit.

If there is, how you handle this process? Because of high salary or language proof or ? The company where I work, already applied for B permit last year but the gemeinde did not give me B.."
No it is not clear. And not just for me. Another member directly asks the OP in a post whether they are EU or non-EU!

The OP also said in their first post:

"I am going to extend my L work permit soon"

so there are in fact conflicting statements and it is far from being clear. If it had have been clear then it would not have been queried and I also would not have mentioned my colleague's experience!

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Re: The second year extension of L permit

The OP seems to make a habit of providing conflicting info. In this thread they say they have a dependent's L permit which just isn't possible.

https://www.englishforum.ch/permits-...-l-permit.html

and would negate this thread entirely.

Always worth checking a poster's profile and previous threads just to be sure you know as much as possible about their situation.
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Re: The second year extension of L permit

Right. I think some people don't even know what type of permit they are on, nor what their permit means/entitles them to.

I know people who have everything to do with the permit done for them and they just sign when asked to. Also they don't even carry it around with them as they say it is a nuisance and too big!
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Re: The second year extension of L permit

Can't make that excuse with a non-EU permit koblenz. It's credit card size.
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Can't make that excuse with a non-EU permit koblenz. It's credit card size.
I am aware of that. The one I was shown was the booklet style one, so was probably EU, I don't recall their nationality as it was years ago.

There was a time then the non-EU ones were in the same format as the current EU ones, I am not sure how long ago they changed to the smaller ones.

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Re: The second year extension of L permit

Update: Today we called BECO for the work permit. They said "they do not required any documents" only this form is needed to be filled out

http://www.vol.be.ch/vol/de/index/di...antritt_DE.pdf

english version

http://www.vol.be.ch/vol/de/index/di...antritt_EN.pdf

and in the Reasons section, it should be written like, this application for extending the permit.

They do not require any papers because they already have. So as a rule, they give the L permit for 2 years and then B permit can be given.
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Always worth checking a poster's profile and previous threads just to be sure you know as much as possible about their situation.
No, impossible or impractical if members have hundreds or thousands of posts. Definitely not worth it.
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Re: The second year extension of L permit

I am a non-EU. I just got my L-permit extended for the second time.
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Re: The second year extension of L permit

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They do not require any papers because they already have. So as a rule, they give the L permit for 2 years and then B permit can be given.
In my case after first year on L we went to the local Gemeinde and asked if we can get B or L. The lady marked both in the application and we paid the fee for B. Some time later we've got our L for the second year. We also got some cash back (the difference between B and L). Then I had a talk with my boss and he explained me that he got a request from the authorities to do a research on the market and everything from scratch if he wants me to get the B skipping the second L. He rejected this request. I've got my B after 2 years on L. Was pretty easy, I already posted this story on EF.
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In my case after first year on L we went to the local Gemeinde and asked if we can get B or L. The lady marked both in the application and we paid the fee for B. Some time later we've got our L for the second year. We also got some cash back (the difference between B and L). Then I had a talk with my boss and he explained me that he got a request from the authorities to do a research on the market and everything from scratch if he wants me to get the B skipping the second L. He rejected this request. I've got my B after 2 years on L. Was pretty easy, I already posted this story on EF.
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Thank you for your reply. Today I was in migration office ( i got a letter on thursday) so I paid 102.30 CHF. Probably it will be L permit.

My company never look for an employee for me. I mean, they did not open a thread in labor or newspaper etc. They just wrote a letter that says I was doing my internship there and i had experience with their product. And It was enough to get my first L permit. This year, he only filled the form again (actually nothing changed), i signed it and they sent it to the BECO.
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