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Work permit application for Non EU refused - tips needed

Hello everyone,

I would be thankful if some Non EU citizen who's been going through the work permit procedure can give me some useful tips.

The first application submitted by my future employer is refused. The main reason is that "apparently" the company didn't do enough effort to find an employee among the Swiss and EU citizens. This is strange as the job ad has been in RAV, EURES and some other portals for more than 6 months.

Anyway they insist on the post in printed journals as well, news papers, magazines. The employer really wants to hire me as it's 100% sure that I am the right person for this position, but on the other side he's not very happy about posting in printed media. It's a small family business, and there are some other reasons.

So, please, what was your employer experience with this? Has Immigration insisted on posting in journals? Which journal/ news paper you recommend? How long the job ad have to be posted?

By the way I live in Switzerland 5 years already, have Swiss Master degree, and am obviously Non EU citizen

Many thanks!!
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Old 02.06.2017, 20:11
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Hello everyone,

I would be thankful if some Non EU citizen who's been going through the work permit procedure can give me some useful tips.

The first application submitted by my future employer is refused. The main reason is that "apparently" the company didn't do enough effort to find an employee among the Swiss and EU citizens. This is strange as the job ad has been in RAV, EURES and some other portals for more than 6 months.

Anyway they insist on the post in printed journals as well, news papers, magazines. The employer really wants to hire me as it's 100% sure that I am the right person for this position, but on the other side he's not very happy about posting in printed media. It's a small family business, and there are some other reasons.

So, please, what was your employer experience with this? Has Immigration insisted on posting in journals? Which journal/ news paper you recommend? How long the job ad have to be posted?

By the way I live in Switzerland 5 years already, have Swiss Master degree, and am obviously Non EU citizen

Many thanks!!
I am guessing the salary is on the low side, suggest they increase the salary on the next application to at least 8k a month, it might need to be more.
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Re: Work permit application for Non EU refused - tips needed

The non-EU hiring criteria is outlined here:

https://www.sem.admin.ch/sem/en/home...zulassung.html

When did you finish your Masters? If in the last 6 months this may help.

https://www.sem.admin.ch/sem/en/home...abgaenger.html
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I am guessing the salary is on the low side, suggest they increase the salary on the next application to at least 8k a month, it might need to be more.
Thanks for your reply, the salary is 7K a month, but they didn't mention this as an issue. They insist the job ad to be also in the newspapers, journals, magazines, as this would be enough convincing that employer put enough effort in finding an employee among Swiss & EU citizens.

On the other side the employer is not happy about this as despite all arguments he provided them (the reasons why me and not someone else), despite search he did in the last 6 months, they say - it's not enough

Is it true that job post in the printed media is so conditional? I've never heard this before.

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The non-EU hiring criteria is outlined here:

https://www.sem.admin.ch/sem/en/home...zulassung.html

When did you finish your Masters? If in the last 6 months this may help.

https://www.sem.admin.ch/sem/en/home...abgaenger.html
Thanks a lot! I've finished Master year ago

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Yes, it may be that they want him to advertise in industry specific publications and newspapers/magazines.

"Moreover, the employer must explain to the authorities why the search for a suitable candidate by means of the recruitment channels used in the specific industry, such as specialist journals, employment agencies, online job listings or corporate websites, etc., was not successful. Suitable proof includes job advertisements in newspapers, written confirmation from employment agencies, or other kinds of documentation. Often it is helpful for authorities if the employer submits a brief overview of all candidates with a short explanation of which qualifications for a particular job were lacking. In special cases, the authorities can request an employer to intensify his recruitment efforts."

They obviously feel the employer should be able to find a suitable Swiss/EU national if they cast their recruitment net wider.
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Thank you!
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They obviously feel the employer should be able to find a suitable Swiss/EU national if they cast their recruitment net wider.
Presumable the EURES stats show plenty of people available so little or no chance of getting a permit, no matter what advertising he does.
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Presumable the EURES stats show plenty of people available so little or no chance of getting a permit, no matter what advertising he does.
If you read mtalita's posts you'd see that the authorities are insisting that the position is advertised in printed newspapers and magazines as well as on RAV and EURES. So obviously RAV/EURES is not enough as far as they're concerned or they wouldn't bother asking for the position to be advertised in printed journals as well. They'd just say no and that would be it. My guess is that they feel a good number of possible applicants are being denied the opportunity to see the job and apply for it since it isn't in printed journals at present.
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If you read mtalita's posts you'd see that the authorities are insisting that the position is advertised in printed newspapers and magazines as well as on RAV and EURES. So obviously RAV/EURES is not enough as far as they're concerned or they wouldn't bother asking for the position to be advertised in printed journals as well. They'd just say no and that would be it. My guess is that they feel a good number of possible applicants are being denied the opportunity to see the job and apply for it since it isn't in printed journals at present.
That's basically what I'm saying! They can see clearly that there are plenty of people available so it's not a case of do the ads and he get the permit...
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