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Family reunification on L permit(non-EU)

Hello Everyone,


I am new here and have gone through the forum a bit but have not found exactly what I am looking for, sorry if this is a re-post.


I am a non-EU(Indian citizen) and currently working in Geneva with Visa-D and Resident permit-L type.


Whether I can process to bring my spouse(Indian citizen) under Family reunification visa? Is there any restriction only with resident permit- C, B can be applied.


Additionally, my company is planning to convert my Visa type D to B and it would takes some time for initiation.

Could you kindly guide me if my spouse get dependent Visa with the same type- D(as of now), what would be the procedure to convert to B type.


Thanks for your help in advance.
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Old 03.08.2017, 16:17
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Re: Family reunification on L permit(non-EU)

I do not know what a Visa B is but assume you are thinking of getting your L permit converted to a B permit?

With an L permit you are not entitled to bring your family, it can be allowed though.

As for converting your L permit into a B permit? How long have you been here already on an L permit?

Do check the forum threads on permits/visa? This was explained quite a lot of times.
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Re: Family reunification on L permit(non-EU)

Thanks for your reply.
So I understand that there is a chance of accepting the family reunification with L permit. I have been so far 4 months with L permit and valid for a year.
My conversion from L to B permit company would be taking care. I just want to know for dependent visa conversion, can I proceed further from Swiss canton here itself or they should go back to home country(India) for doing this conversion?
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Re: Family reunification on L permit(non-EU)

As a non-EU national with an L permit you have no automatic right to bring your family here. It's entirely down to the cantonal authorities whether they grant permission or not.

The Type D visa has nothing to do with being able to live and work in Switzerland, it's only an entry visa which allows someone to be in the country legally for more than 90 days, i.e. long term. Your visa is now invalid since you used it to enter the country and now have an L permit - which takes the place of the visa for Schengen Area travel purposes.

You will need to apply for family reunification with the cantonal authorities. Meanwhile your wife back in India will need to apply for a Type D visa at the Swiss embassy/consulate. IF the family reunification permit is approved the visa will be issued and she will get it stamped into her passport. She'll then have a certain period of time that the visa is valid for to allow her to enter Switzerland. Once she arrives she then goes to the cantonal migration office to start the process of getting the pre-approved permit issued to her.

If the family reunification permit is not approved then no visa will be issued.

Your company may apply for a B permit for you, but it's unlikely it would be granted after only a year on an L. The norm is usually 2 years L before the canton would consider a change in permit type.

Whatever permit type you hold, your spouse would get too - L or B.
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Re: Family reunification on L permit(non-EU)

Thank you for the detailed information.

As suggested I will apply family reunification visa for my family, hopefully I should get approval from cantonal authorities.


Regarding my conversion permit to B, company will be taking time to initiate. I noted that it would be granted only after a year completion with the permit L.


I have still doubt about the conversion process for my dependent visa. Example my spouse got approved and she got the same L permit which I have now.

After sometime if my permit is changed to B, then whether I should take any action for converting my dependent(spouse) permit to B or it would be automatically converted?


If I should take action, what would be procedure for that.


Thanks a lot for your support.
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Re: Family reunification on L permit(non-EU)

No action needed. As said, whatever permit you have your dependents will get the same.

Whatever your company may have told you, there's no guarantee of a change of permit type after a year. It might happen, but these things are all decided on a case by case basis so don't assume it's going to happen. The norm we've seen here on the forum over the years is 2 years on an L before coverting to a B if the application is approved.
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Re: Family reunification on L permit(non-EU)

Thanks for your clarifications, really it helps me a lot.
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Re: Family reunification on L permit(non-EU)

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The norm we've seen here on the forum over the years is 2 years on an L before coverting to a B if the application is approved.
Also, at least for ZH it's not just "the norm", but explicit practice that you cannot convert a non-EU L permit into a B until you have it for two years. It is even present in the FAQ on the ZH labour authority website.

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Ist es möglich, eine Kurzaufenthaltsbewilligung (L-Bewilligung) vor Ablauf der 24 Monate in eine Aufenthaltsbewilligung (B-Bewilligung) umzuwandeln?

Nein, dies ist nicht möglich. Bevor die Umwandlung in eine Aufenthaltsbewilligung geprüft werden kann, muss das Kurzaufenthaltskontingent von 24 Monaten ausgeschöpft sein.
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Is it possible to convert a short-stay permit (L-permit) into a residence permit (B-permit) before the end of the 24-month period?

No, this is not possible. Before the conversion into a residence permit can be examined, the short stay quota of 24 months must be exhausted.
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Re: Family reunification on L permit(non-EU)

ok got it, Thank you very much
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