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Asking for C settlement permit for non-EU citizents (canton Zürich/canton Aargau)

Hi everybody,

I am non-EU citizen and I am working in Zürich but I live in canton Aargau.

Every year I will ask for new B work permit and send a request to canton Zürich. After I receive it, then canton Zürich will notify canton Aargau that I have a permit for one more year.

My questions are:

1. Where I apply for C settlement permit (after a period of 10 continues years is finished)? In Zürich or Aargau? (I am asking because of different regulations and lows in these cantons)

2. Before I received B work permit, I had 2 years L work permit (all the time my working contract was for an unlimited time). These 10 continues years which we need to fulfil in order to ask for C settlement permit, includes my 2 years of L permit (2L + 8B) or I have to have 10 continues years of B work permit in order to apply for C settlement permit?

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Old 24.08.2017, 10:55
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Re: Asking for C settlement permit for non-EU citizents (canton Zürich/canton Aargau)

Where you live, not where you work.

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Re: Asking for C settlement permit for non-EU citizents (canton Zürich/canton Aargau)

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Hi everybody,

I am non-EU citizen and I am working in Zürich but I live in canton Aargau.

Every year I will ask for new B work permit and send a request to canton Zürich. After I receive it, then canton Zürich will notify canton Aargau that I have a permit for one more year.

My questions are:

1. Where I apply for C settlement permit (after a period of 10 continues years is finished)? In Zürich or Aargau? (I am asking because of different regulations and lows in these cantons)

2. Before I received B work permit, I had 2 years L work permit (all the time my working contract was for an unlimited time). These 10 continues years which we need to fulfil in order to ask for C settlement permit, includes my 2 years of L permit (2L + 8B) or I have to have 10 continues years of B work permit in order to apply for C settlement permit?

Thank you in advance
It was my understanding (a few years ago) that you need 10 years to qualify for the C (as non-EU/EFTA) and that these 10 years could be from L or B or a mixture of both.
Though newer rules may have come into force since.
You should perhaps make an enquiry at your local town hall.
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Re: Asking for C settlement permit for non-EU citizents (canton Zürich/canton Aargau)

This sounds very odd.

There is no such thing as a "work permit", it is a residence permit which may or may not additionally have limitations on the right to work attached (default is normal right to work with no restrictions).

It must be applied for in your canton / gemeinde of residence, NOT where you work. The local office responsible for issuing the permit then may ask for proof of employment from you / your employer, not another canton.

Unless you originally started in Zurich? In that case you should have moved your residence.

Same applies for C permit, always in your gemeinde of residence.

For the other stuff on timing read the other threads, no point in repeating it all here.

Last edited by newtoswitz; 24.08.2017 at 11:05. Reason: Corrected "right to work" bit
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Re: Asking for C settlement permit for non-EU citizents (canton Zürich/canton Aargau)

Thank you for all your answers.

Sorry, I made mistake, I should call it B residence permit instead of B work permit.

Only this part related to 10 continues years before we can ask for C permit is a missing part for me, are years of holding L permit calculated in total sum or not?

To be 100% sure I have to ask Migration office in Canton Aargau it seems.
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Thank you for all your answers.

Sorry, I made mistake, I should call it B residence permit instead of B work permit.

Only this part related to 10 continues years before we can ask for C permit is a missing part for me, are years of holding L permit calculated in total sum or not?

To be 100% sure I have to ask Migration office in Canton Aargau it seems.
It was my understanding (a few years ago) that you need 10 years to qualify for the C (as non-EU/EFTA) and that these 10 years could be from L or B or a mixture of both.
Though newer rules may have come into force since then. It would be best to make an enquiry at your local town hall.
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Re: Asking for C settlement permit for non-EU citizents (canton Zürich/canton Aargau)

you can apply for C permit in less than 10 years under VINTA , requirements are slightly different though. forum has enough info on it.
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Old 24.08.2017, 13:38
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Re: Asking for C settlement permit for non-EU citizents (canton Zürich/canton Aargau)

Ct. Aargau website says that a combination of L and B permits can be used to satisfy the 10 year requirements for non-EU citizens but that a B permit must cover the past five years without interruption:

"Die Niederlassungsbewilligung (C) kann erteilt werden, wenn die Ausländerin oder der Ausländer mindestens zehn Jahre mit einer Kurzaufenthalts- (L) oder Aufenthaltsbewilligung (B) in der Schweiz aufgehalten haben und sie während den letzten fünf Jahren ununterbrochen im Besitz einer Aufenthaltsbewilligung waren."

It also states that residency in Aargau is required to apply for a C permit:

"Zudem muss die ausländische Person im Besitz eines gültigen Aufenthaltstitels sein und Wohnsitz im Kanton Aargau haben."

https://www.ag.ch/de/dvi/migration_i...illigung_1.jsp
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Ct. Aargau website says that a combination of L and B permits can be used to satisfy the 10 year requirements for non-EU citizens but that a B permit must cover the past five years without interruption:

"Die Niederlassungsbewilligung (C) kann erteilt werden, wenn die Ausländerin oder der Ausländer mindestens zehn Jahre mit einer Kurzaufenthalts- (L) oder Aufenthaltsbewilligung (B) in der Schweiz aufgehalten haben und sie während den letzten fünf Jahren ununterbrochen im Besitz einer Aufenthaltsbewilligung waren."

It also states that residency in Aargau is required to apply for a C permit:

"Zudem muss die ausländische Person im Besitz eines gültigen Aufenthaltstitels sein und Wohnsitz im Kanton Aargau haben."

https://www.ag.ch/de/dvi/migration_i...illigung_1.jsp
Thank you. This will help me a lot. I will inform my self more.
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This sounds very odd.

There is no such thing as a "work permit", it is a residence permit which may or may not additionally have limitations on the right to work attached (default is normal right to work with no restrictions).
Calling it "work permit" in case of an Non-EU national is not completely wrong. There are residence permit B w/ and w/o gainful employment.

Also for a Non-EU national it really makes sense to persuade permit C ASAP as the right they get change considerably: Free settlement in whole Switzerland, free choice of employer, and employer must no longer proof they could not find a Swiss/EU national.

The conditions for getting permit C have not been changed and no changes are planned.
Art. 34 Foreign Nationals Act https://www.admin.ch/opc/en/classifi...index.html#a34
You will need a total of ten years on L and B PLUS the last 5 years must be uninterrupted on B.
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The conditions for getting permit C have not been changed and no changes are planned.
Art. 34 Foreign Nationals Act https://www.admin.ch/opc/en/classifi...index.html#a34
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As an aside, conditions for losing permit C (same art 34 AuG) have been changed ever so subtly...
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