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Fine for not participating in community election

Hello Everyone,
My wife is a swiss national. Last month she get invitation to participate in geminde election but unfortunately she had severe back pain for last two months and was continuously visiting doctor so could not attend this event as she realize she have to wait longer for this purpose. Now she get fine of 200 Fr. Today her doctor told, he can write letter for her? Any further suggestion in this regard will be highly appreciated.
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Old 07.11.2017, 23:44
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Hello Everyone,
My wife is a swiss national. Last month she get invitation to participate in geminde election but unfortunately she had severe back pain for last two months and was continuously visiting doctor so could not attend this event as she realize she have to wait longer for this purpose. Now she get fine of 200 Fr. Today her doctor told, he can write letter for her? Any further suggestion in this regard will be highly appreciated.
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To participate how? Counting votes?
She should be okay bringing in the medical certificate. But it sounds like she did not let them know, which is complicating it.
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Re: Fine for not participating in community election

If it was to vote in a gemeinde election these usually take place on a Saturday/Sunday so how was she seeing her doctor then? Usually there's also the option to send your vote in by post if you can't make it on "the day".

Still a medical certficate from the doctor should do the trick.
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Old 09.11.2017, 09:36
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If it was to vote in a gemeinde election these usually take place on a Saturday/Sunday so how was she seeing her doctor then? Usually there's also the option to send your vote in by post if you can't make it on "the day".

Still a medical certficate from the doctor should do the trick.
I wasn't aware that voting was compulsory in any municipality in Switzerland. If it is, I've broken the law numerous times .

I think it's more likely she was convened for vote-counting, as curley states, and simply didn't show up. Which is fair enough if she has health problems, but she should have informed the commune beforehand, you get plenty of notice.
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Old 09.11.2017, 09:37
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Re: Fine for not participating in community election

Is voting mandatory in some circumstances?
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Old 09.11.2017, 09:42
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I wasn't aware that voting was compulsory in any municipality in Switzerland.
It is, but only in canton SH:

https://www.swissinfo.ch/eng/directd...lsory/38299724

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Re: Fine for not participating in community election

Not that I've heard of gbn. Like PaddyG if it is, I've broken the law a few times too since I can vote in our commune elections.

If it was to participate in some other way like vote counting then yes, she should have notified them beforehand that she wasn't able to do it so they could arrange a replacement.
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Re: Fine for not participating in community election

Why ask such a question on an expat forum?
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Old 09.11.2017, 10:19
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<snip>Last month she get invitation to participate in geminde election</snip>
You’ll need to explain what the above means before any sensible answer can be given...
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Old 09.11.2017, 10:36
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Re: Fine for not participating in community election

As only SH has compulsory voting, and OP is in BE it can not be the vote it self but is most likely overseeing and counting the vote. Like jury duty in the USA it is one of the civil/civic duties (not sure which one, both seem to be appropriate, please discuss).

Reasonable thing to do in such a situation is to inform the authorities ASAP that you can not addend due to medical reasons.
If she did not inform them, neither before nor after the election the fine is of no surprise.
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Calm down..

I understood it in the same way as others that the OP's wife was on ballot duty and caused them to be short staffed by not informing them in advance.

I guess he'll be along shortly to put us all straight.
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Old 09.11.2017, 10:53
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Re: Fine for not participating in community election

Just an aside..
Our eldest was convened for the first vote after we'd moved to our new commune. She was pretty disgruntled at the time, but said it was the easiest money she'd ever earned. So much so she even volounteered for the next one.
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Old 09.11.2017, 11:08
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Hello Everyone,
My wife is a swiss national. Last month she get invitation to participate in geminde election but unfortunately she had severe back pain for last two months and was continuously visiting doctor so could not attend this event as she realize she have to wait longer for this purpose. Now she get fine of 200 Fr. Today her doctor told, he can write letter for her? Any further suggestion in this regard will be highly appreciated.
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Yes, get letter, give to Gemeinde to cancel fine.
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Old 09.11.2017, 11:09
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I believe SH has this rule on federal votes and elections only.

OP however asks about a communal election.
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Just an aside..
Our eldest was convened for the first vote after we'd moved to our new commune. She was pretty disgruntled at the time, but said it was the easiest money she'd ever earned. So much so she even volounteered for the next one.
I really liked it. As a student it was nice tax free extra pay for easy work. Best was when the network connection to Zurich did not work. Could think of many thing worse than sitting in the sun and earning 35 CHF / hour.
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Old 09.11.2017, 11:55
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Re: Fine for not participating in community election

Sorry, I don't believe this story.

a) Bern doesn't know compulsory voting; as has been established, only one canton does (and I doubt it's for communal votes)

b) Even if it were compulsory in OP's canton, you can vote via mail and there's no obligation to be physically present. So "severe back pain", for months no less (i.e. could have been anticipated) and "at the doctor's" (every day? And on a Sunday?) is not an excuse

c) Even if OP lived in Schaffhausen, there's no way the fine is 200.- . Instead, it is actually 6.- http://www.schaffhausen.net/2013/11/...usse-soll.html

d) As she probably signed up to count votes and didn't show up without bothering to tell them, the fine is understandable. Send a doctor's certificate, like you do everywhere else, done. Not really all that complicated.

e) Not quite sure why the non-Swiss husband asks this question in an expat forum, when the Swiss wife could simply ask the Gemeinde
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yes, get letter, give to gemeinde to cancel fine.
hat??? wb.
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Why ask such a question on an expat forum?
Maybe because OP wil get their answers.

Btw, if it boosts the number of people going to vote the next time - then it is one mission accomplished, already.
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Old 09.11.2017, 12:52
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Why ask such a question on an expat forum?
Because some of us are allowed to vote in commune/gemeinde elections and also in a few cantonal ones as well I believe. So we might be able to tell the OP what they want to know I guess.
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