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Hi All,
This is my first post here. My husband has received an offer letter from Switzerland Zurich. Employer has applied for his work permit B type stating he needs to join by Jan 2018. It's been 6 weeks since they applied. Last what we got to hear from employer was that they have not heard yet from the office and the final decision is still pending. We have submit copies of all our passports and birth certificates. How long would this take and further how long would it take for family reunification. I understand there are my informative posts on this topic in the forum but still confused as to how long it will take. So any non-eu person who got a B permit recently.. kindly help us understand the timelines. Also once he receives the permit can we apply for dependent visa. I would like to work though after moving to switzerland. what kind of dependent visa do I need to work once I join him. Is there anyway the whole family can move together. Currently we are in Dubai and will loose our residence permit once he moves out from here. We will have to go back to home country and set up a place to live in case we can't move togeather. Please help with your suggestions.
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Old 30.11.2017, 09:43
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Re: Non-EU have employment offer, B permit

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I understand there are my informative posts on this topic in the forum but still confused as to how long it will take.
Because no one can tell you how long it takes.

AFAIK your husband needs to have his permit before he can apply for family reunification (assuming you are not EU)
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AFAIK your husband needs to have his permit before he can apply for family reunification (assuming you are not EU)
If by 'having his permit' you mean 'has received a visa, entered Switzerland and received the permit card' then no, it's not necessarily true.
I have plenty of non-EU colleagues who moved to Switzerland taking their families with them when they moved. It probably requires some goodwill and paperwork on part of the main permit holder's employer to apply for the entry permission for the whole family at the same time.
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Re: Non-EU have employment offer, B permit

But only when the permit of the main permit holder has been approved
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But only when the permit of the main permit holder has been approved
Yes, of course. So in Zürich the process would be like
1. Employer asks AWA (labor market authority) to approve the work permission for the main holder
2. AWA issues the approval, sends confirmation to employer and Migrationsamt ZH.
3. Employer asks Migrationsamt ZH for the entry permission (D visa approval) for the main permit holder based on the approved work permission and for the family for family reunification.
4. Migrationsamt approves, sends the authorization for D visas to the Swiss embassy in the applicants' country.
5. They go and have their D visas stamped and now can go to Switzerland together.
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Old 30.11.2017, 11:48
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still confused as to how long it will take.
Up to 3 months.

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You can't apply for a B permit. You apply for a permit, but which one you get is up to the authorities and in part influenced by the extent the quotas have been exhausted already. He might well get an L.

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I would like to work though after moving to switzerland. what kind of dependent visa do I need to work once I join him.
You can join him at any rate, but for you to get an automatic work permit, he needs to receive a B. If he gets an L, you have no automatic right to work and need to figure that out on your own/separately.
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Re: Non-EU have employment offer, B permit

It is up to 3 months from *whenever* the employer actually submitted all the documents correctly to the work permit authority in Switzerland.

When the work permission is approved then they notify the employer, who then notifies you. At the same time, documents go from the swiss office to the consulate-general of the country nominated in the forms which the employer submitted.

The only way you can speed things up slightly is that you wait until the employer confirms that they received approval for the work permit, ask them to email you a copy of that letter. Then you contact the consulate general yourselves and very nicely introduce yourself, let them know that you have a copy of that letter and are looking foward to coming to Switzerland with your spouse and family. Then give them your phone number and email address.

I did this and they told me it sped things up by 'a few days' for issuing the D visas because they matched my phone number and email to the electronic notification process when it came through, and normally they would have had to write a formal letter, which takes a day or two and then send it via post which takes another day or two, then you get the letter and make the appointment to get the visas.

Instead, the electronic notification arrived at the consulate general, they emailed us the same day, we set up an appointment immediately and were able to bring the whole family to get their D visas added to their passports very promptly.

There was a nervous 24 hour wait between when my husband's permission arrived and when the wife and children's permissions arrived...

Hopefully the employer sent your husbands, yours and your child's paperwork all in together or very close together. A longer delay (eg. they only asked for spouse and children's papers later, or you took longer to provide them) can mean the two processes are separated and there will be a longer delay between getting the D visas (which are 'entry' visas by the way) approved...

We did know that if my husband's visa was approved first, and ours were delayed by administrative processes, even though we knew they were approved... then he would have to fly first and we would have to delay our flights, but in the end it was all sorted on a Tuesday and we flew out to Switzerland on the following Monday.
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Re: Non-EU have employment offer, B permit

Your husband's prospective employer should have applied for family reunification permits at the same time they did the main permit application. Understand that there's no automatic right for you to be able to join your husband here, it's entirely down to the cantonal authorities to decide if the family reunification application meets the criteria.

https://www.ch.ch/en/family-reunification/

It's most likely that he/you will get an L permit to start with and, as Samaire13 said, with that permit you have no automatic right to seek employment here. Any employer would have to apply to the Swiss authorities to be able to hire you and has to meet certain conditions to be able to do so. You must also have personal qualifications, i.e. a university degree.

"Family members of a holder of a short-term residence (L) permit (Article 26 OASA) do not enjoy the right to exercise a lucrative activity. The exercise of a lucrative activity is subject to authorization. Upon admission, a request from the employer respecting the remuneration and working conditions in use in the locality and branch must have been submitted. In addition, members of the family of a holder of a short-stay permit (Article 26 OASA) must have professional qualifications (personal qualifications, Article 23 LEtr)."
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Re: Non-EU have employment offer, B permit

also Keep in mind that even family reunification can take 3-6 months (i think it depend on employer's reputation) and as other said he will not get B Permit even though he has got contract with unlimited period of time.
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Re: Non-EU have employment offer, B permit

Hi all,

Logged in to update the status.
Husbands work permit was rejected on 1-Dec-2017 as the quota was not available at that time and the authorities were happy with his case. They have asked to reapply in January for joining date 1-March-2018. This time we have requested the employer to apply for the family reunification as well so that we can move in together. Waiting to hear from the employer regarding the work permit application being redone in JAN. Meanwhile I have another query. As the documents were already verified and application was rejected only for unavailability of quota, does it mean faster processing of work permit? Anyone who faced similar issue??
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Re: Non-EU have employment offer, B permit

Have they rejected the documents and asked for refilling or just said this case will be considered in 2018 quota? If latter, you may hear within this month.
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Re: Non-EU have employment offer, B permit

They are going to apply in 15 th Jan with a new contract. Does it mean the earlier documents were rejected?
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Re: Non-EU have employment offer, B permit

Following is the update from the employer we got when we first applied in October 2017- "I have bad news. The authorities have rejected our proposal for your contract for January.
They have told us that our application and explanation why we needed to recruit you was good, but they have no more quota for foreigners this year.
They told us we have to reapply beginning next year for March 1st or April 1st – I am still in discussions with them."
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Re: Non-EU have employment offer, B permit

The employer has submitted the application yesterday 17-Jan-2018. They have told that this time it will not take as long to process the application. May be 2-3 weeks time. They have share the application number as well. Is there anyway we can track the status of this application with AWA online.
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Is there anyway we can track the status of this application with AWA online.
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Is there anyway we can track the status of this application with AWA online.
Your future employer can see the status of it in the AWA e-Workpermits system. You cannot register there as an applicant, sorry. You could ask AWA by email quoting the number, but it will be a human answering you and it might take a day or two for the response.
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Re: Non-EU have employment offer, B permit

We have received an update today from the employer that the permit is approved and we need to get the visa stamped at the consulate. The document is in german and I am not able to understand if the permit is what kind. Can someone help me to understand what does it mean by " Ein Jaheim mit Verlangerungsmoglichkeit". I translated this and understood it to be valid for one year and extendable. But could not make out the kind of permit it is L or B. Can someone please help. Also the employer has asked to apply for family reunification and get husbands passport stamped for visa. Any idea about what needs to be done in this regards. What documents to take along to the consulate?
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But could not make out the kind of permit it is L or B. Can someone please help.
If the letter you got is "Ermächtigung zur Visumerteilung" then look for the Zulassungscode field. If it says "Kurzaufenthalter/in", then it's an L. If it says "Aufenthalter/in", it's a B.
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The field you mentioned says Jahresaufenthalter (-in)
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The field you mentioned says Jahresaufenthalter (-in)
Should be an L then
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