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Old 10.10.2018, 10:04
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Do you need a language certificate for the C permit? For citizens of some countries that is required
That is something that I am unsure of. I am from the US and married to a Swiss national for quite a few years.
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Old 10.10.2018, 11:27
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Do you need a language certificate for the C permit? For citizens of some countries that is required
Perhaps, but you don't need one for facilitated naturalisation, nor do you need a C-permit.

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Old 10.10.2018, 11:35
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But I need to renew my permit in the next 2.5 months. Would you suggest that I apply for the C Permit now and then apply for citizenship in the Spring?
Permit C is not needed for naturalization based on marriage. But as the naturalization process takes time and permit C has it own perks and properly costs the same as permit B it is wise to get it.

To get a C permit based on marriage with a Swiss you must have been in Switzerland for at least 5 years and all those 5 years married to the same Swiss person. At least in Canton Zurich there is no language requirement.

As a US person you can request a permit C after 5 years of stay based on a treaty. Canton Zurich says you need at least local language level A2 for this.

https://ma.zh.ch/internet/sicherheit...lligung_IW.pdf

You will have to check what language levels your canton requests.
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Re: Applying for Swiss Citizenship

Hello, all

I am going through the final stages (I hope!) of the citizenship procedure, and am due to appear soon before the naturalisation commission of our local commune (Grand-Saconnex). I have done my homework as much as possible, but really have no idea of what to expect at this hearing. Has anyone had recent experience with these interviews, particularly in Grand-Saconnex? Any guidance on how to prepare?

Thanks in advance for any advice! best regards
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Re: Applying for Swiss Citizenship

Having gone though this in Le Grand Saconnex, the process involves an approximately 30 minutes session with a 5 person interview panel who will ask you a mix of questions heavily slanted towards the politics of the commune and personalities down to the schedules of their meetings. So pay attention to the local events just as much as the federal ones. There will be a focus on your hobbies as well and how much of it is Swiss. Overall each member of the panel will pose the question and moves on to a random Q and A. After a couple of weeks you will get a letter indicating the result of your evaluation.
Good Luck and once again focus on the communal affairs.
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Old 25.10.2018, 10:39
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There will be a focus on your hobbies as well and how much of it is Swiss. Overall each member of the panel will pose the question and moves on to a random Q and A. After a couple of weeks you will get a letter indicating the result of your evaluation.
Good Luck and once again focus on the communal affairs.
What hobbies are Swiss? What hobbies are not Swiss?

Are you talking about skiing for example as being Swiss or collecting garden gnomes?
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Old 25.10.2018, 23:22
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What hobbies are Swiss? What hobbies are not Swiss?

Are you talking about skiing for example as being Swiss or collecting garden gnomes?
For example it could be along the lines of...do you belong to the local knitting club or only meet the ladies at the American Womens' Club? Or if you want to go with skiing, what resorts do you visit in CH or do you just go to Chamonix?
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Re: Applying for Swiss Citizenship

Also: whether any of your non-work activities Swiss in the sense that they are local, and aimed at building the community, or practicing or preserving Swiss traditions or nature, or aimed at making a constructive difference to the lives of people living here.
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What hobbies are Swiss? What hobbies are not Swiss?

Are you talking about skiing for example as being Swiss or collecting garden gnomes?

They had asked about activities which in my case did not include skiing although I mentioned many other sports. The question that followed was why I did not participate in Swiss sports such as skiing or other mountain sports. For this they wanted an explanation. Why a person integrated and is requesting naturalisation was not participating in activities which were popular in Switzerland.You will need to give a convincing answer to this. You might not get the exact same question, but this gives you an idea on the nature of their queries.
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Old 26.10.2018, 09:36
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Also: whether any of your non-work activities Swiss in the sense that they are local, and aimed at building the community, or practicing or preserving Swiss traditions or nature, or aimed at making a constructive difference to the lives of people living here.
I'm in our local community Verein and spend a few evenings and weekends building Spielplatzes or cutting hedges.

I also partake in various summer and winter mountain activities.

Cool, I'm halfway there. I just need to take up smoking and have raclette at least twice a week and I'll be a model citizen.
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I'm in our local community Verein and spend a few evenings and weekends building Spielplatzes or cutting hedges.

I also partake in various summer and winter mountain activities.

Cool, I'm halfway there. I just need to take up smoking and have raclette at least twice a week and I'll be a model citizen.

The idea or what they are looking for here is not so much the right answers. You have already passed that in your exam or general Swiss culture customs and history knowledge. Here they are judging your attitude and is very subjective. They need to see if you are part of the community and take being Swiss seriously. The community attitude is much more important than being just involved in the stereotypical Swiss activities. Those are just attributes. There have been candidates who have been rejected for having debts with their parents to buy a car before having a job as a sign of lack of self sufficiency and independence while having an informed opinion on the past referendums gotten some a plus. The most important thing is to show some seriousness and responsibility so one can say you will be an asset to the commune. As it has surprised many in the past, a nice and easygoing interview does not mean that you should treat this as a casual chit chat.



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Old 27.10.2018, 04:09
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I've just completed the process in Zurich. While the German test was not too difficult, it good basic knowledge is needed to get through it IMO. My final interview lasted 50 minutes and was mostly about my knowledge the Swiss and kantonal political system and the voting system...in German. That was tough.

They provide an information booklet prior to that. My advice would be to study it very well. I did not study it enough. I took a private tutor a few weeks before to improve my conversation and learn how to describe well in German the reasons why I love Switzerland, my professional history and my personal interests - which also came up in the final interview.

Hope that helps!

Hi Brenda - in Zurich, after submission of application, was there only an interview or were there any further requirements, tests that you had to do?
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Old 27.10.2018, 10:11
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Hi Brenda - in Zurich, after submission of application, was there only an interview or were there any further requirements, tests that you had to do?
Sorry, but have you read any of the threads here about naturalization?

For regular naturalization there are multiple requirements.

There [may be] a written exam that covers politics, geography, history, etc. That's the one Blenda is referring to with the "booklet" you are sent in advance so you can study.

In the German-speaking area there's a German language certificate requirement, but you should have met that in order to get the C permit (which is also required before you can apply for naturalization).

There's the interview at the municipal level, where you're expected to show your German speaking skills and at the same time show your connection to the community.

Plus the debt register extract, social help extract, proof of taxes being paid and being able to support yourself, etc.

It's not simply an application and an interview. Although that would be nice!

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Re: Applying for Swiss Citizenship

Ah apologies for not being clear in my question. I have done all the rest and was ni5 referring to German, certificates, etc but I should have stated. The only confusion 8 have is that I have heard that canton Zurich does not require a test on the booklet but rather those are addressed during the interviews. So my question really is whether in canton Zurich, in addition to all the other requirements, there is an interview only or an interview + a test on your knowledge of Switzerland.

And yes I had read all the threads before posting
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Ah apologies for not being clear in my question. I have done all the rest and was ni5 referring to German, certificates, etc but I should have stated. The only confusion 8 have is that I have heard that canton Zurich does not require a test on the booklet but rather those are addressed during the interviews. So my question really is whether in canton Zurich, in addition to all the other requirements, there is an interview only or an interview + a test on your knowledge of Switzerland.

And yes I had read all the threads before posting
Thanks. Interesting point and I've edited my post accordingly. I've always had the impression one had to sit an exam for regular naturalization and that's why they send the booklet. In Bern, I know you have to sit an exam and it's expensive and not refunded if you don't pass.

But indeed more than one post from Zurich folks on this thread implies the "exam" is rolled into the interview there. Not sure if I'd consider that easier or harder, but am looking forward to the answer!
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Thanks. Interesting point and I've edited my post accordingly. I've always had the impression one had to sit an exam for regular naturalization and that's why they send the booklet. In Bern, I know you have to sit an exam and it's expensive and not refunded if you don't pass.

But indeed more than one post from Zurich folks on this thread implies the "exam" is rolled into the interview there. Not sure if I'd consider that easier or harder, but am looking forward to the answer!
There is no exam in Neuchâtel, thé questions are part of the interview process.
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The advantage of a formal exam is you can study or prepare for it from a set of questions provided. If its part of the interview then it is up to the interview panel to give you any question regarding the history,politics,customs and geography. This might be harder.
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Re: Applying for Swiss Citizenship

Out of curiosity, has anybody here applied for Ordinary Naturalization with new rules i.e. after 01.01.18 ?
If yes, what stage are they on ?

I will be eligible to apply in next 6 months
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Hi I am in the same boat.
But I live in CentralScwheiz.
Any recommendations of book what to learn?
Any ideas are greatly appreciated?
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Here's a course in Lucerne.
https://www.caritas-luzern.ch/was-wi...ergerungskurse
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