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Non EU Marrying a Swiss B holder

HI.

I have a swiss B permit (UK passort) and my Non-EU fiance' and I are now considering getting married in Switzerland.

Will a Swiss Marriage still allow her to be eligible for a B permit (spouse) ?


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Old 11.07.2008, 10:43
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Re: Non EU Marrying a Swiss B holder

Do you mean a Swiss marriage as opposed to a marriage outside Switzerland?
You can apply for a B permit for your spouse under the family reunification rule as long as your marriage is recognised in Switzerland. What better way to make sure it's recognised in Switzerland than having it conducted under the laws of Switzerland? However maybe your spouse will have to leave CH whilst the permit application is being processed. I'm not sure so you'll need to check on that as it could take several months to process.
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Re: Non EU Marrying a Swiss B holder

My case is similar.

I have both Italian and Brazilian citizenship and will start working in Liechtenstein and live in Switzerland. Therefore I assume that I will get a B-Permit for 5 years, right?

My girlfriend is moving in 6 months and we will marry.

Which is the quickest and/or most convenient from the above options?

1. To marry in Brazil and to ask the B-Permit for my future wife in the Swiss Consulate in Brazil? Does she needs to stay in Brazil untill the B-Permit is issued?

2. To marry in Switzerland and to ask the B-Permit directly in Switzerland? If that is the case, does she needs another permit to stay in Switzerland untill the marriage and the B-Permit is issued?

Nev, you said that it this process could take several months. That surprised me! Does anyone had an similar experience and knows how long this proccess really takes?
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Re: Non EU Marrying a Swiss B holder

This thread helped me to get some of the answers:
Non-EU permit Question

From the experience of other persons in other threads it seems to be easier for me to marry her in Brazil and then apply for the permits there. But then I would need to fly back to Brazil, marry there and she will need to stay there and wait untill the visa is issued. And will not be nice to be apart soon after the marriage (I would have to go back to work).

Does anyone know how difficult it really is to her to come to Switzerland as a tourist, marry me and apply in Switzerland to the B-Permit?

You have been so helpful in other threads, I hope that someone would have some insights to help me as well.
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Does anyone know how difficult it really is to her to come to Switzerland as a tourist, marry me and apply in Switzerland to the B-Permit?
Providing that you have all the necessary documents required by the swiss law you can apply for marriage in Switzerland and the fiancee will get a visa to come and get married (not a tourist visa, they will issue a visit visa)
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1. To marry in Brazil and to ask the B-Permit for my future wife in the Swiss Consulate in Brazil? Does she needs to stay in Brazil untill the B-Permit is issued?
If you marry outside Switzerland, you'll need to go to the swiss consulate with legalized translations of the marriage licences, B/C permit etcetera and apply for a family reunion visa. The swiss consulate will NOT issue a B permit. Their procedure is to do a quick check on the papers and application, and send everything to the Federal Immigration Office in Switzerland. In 2-3 months time the wife will get a special visa to enter Switzerland. After entering she will go to the local Gemeinde, register as resident and apply for a B permit.

This is the information I got from a swiss consulate in my wife's country. The situation is similar: I'm EU citizen with C permit and married recently in my non-EU wife's country.
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Re: Non EU Marrying a Swiss B holder

Thank you for the reply!

I beleive that I will marry in Switzerland. It seems the easiest way.

As soon as I have news I post how it all ended.

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Re: Non EU Marrying a Swiss B holder

Felipe, am I invited to ur wedding??
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Re: Non EU Marrying a Swiss B holder

Hi my situation is pretty similair to those mentioned above and am also completely lost as to what to do/ where to go!!
I am from the UK but am living in Switzerland with a B permit, I'm working in Vevey. I moved out here to be closer to my parents who live in and own a house in Vaud. My mother is very ill so I decided to move here to be closer to her. However, this has meant leaving my boyfriend behind. My boyfriend is from Brazil and we are hoping he will come out here in January/ end of December. We would like to marry out here, mostly because my mother can't travel anymore and I want her to be there. My boyfriend is living in London just now. Would he be able to come out here on a three month tourist visa and do you know if we could marry during that period? Do you think it is sensible for him to apply for a visa in the UK so he has one on arrival so there is no risk of him being denied entry when he comes over from the UK?!
If you don't know the answers do you know where I can go to get the answers?!! I think I need to get the process started pretty quickly if he is to come out in January. We would really rather not go to Brazil because it would be very expensive and would make the whole process a lot more lengthy I think!
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Hi my situation is pretty similair to those mentioned above and am also completely lost as to what to do/ where to go!!
I am from the UK but am living in Switzerland with a B permit, I'm working in Vevey. I moved out here to be closer to my parents who live in and own a house in Vaud. My mother is very ill so I decided to move here to be closer to her. However, this has meant leaving my boyfriend behind. My boyfriend is from Brazil and we are hoping he will come out here in January/ end of December. We would like to marry out here, mostly because my mother can't travel anymore and I want her to be there. My boyfriend is living in London just now. Would he be able to come out here on a three month tourist visa and do you know if we could marry during that period? Do you think it is sensible for him to apply for a visa in the UK so he has one on arrival so there is no risk of him being denied entry when he comes over from the UK?!
If you don't know the answers do you know where I can go to get the answers?!! I think I need to get the process started pretty quickly if he is to come out in January. We would really rather not go to Brazil because it would be very expensive and would make the whole process a lot more lengthy I think!
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I have asked here in Buchs (SG) and it would be possible for my girlfriend (Brazilian) to come with a tourist visa and to marry here. They always prefer that the person applies for the visa at the Swiss consulate before travelling (in your case it can be the swiss consulate in UK). But if you do not have the time you should ask the persons in your comunity just not to take the risk.
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Re: Non EU Marrying a Swiss B holder

Do you mean ask in the commune office?
Did your girlfriend get a visa before she arrived?
I know Brazillians are entitled to 3 month tourist visa on arrival. Do you know of Brazillians getting turned away on arrival though??!!
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Providing that you have all the necessary documents required by the swiss law you can apply for marriage in Switzerland and the fiancee will get a visa to come and get married (not a tourist visa, they will issue a visit visa)

What are the necessary documents?
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Do you mean ask in the commune office?
Did your girlfriend get a visa before she arrived?
I know Brazillians are entitled to 3 month tourist visa on arrival. Do you know of Brazillians getting turned away on arrival though??!!
Yes, ask in the commune office.

Actually we are going to get married in Brazil. But I've asked if she needed a special visa before coming. After I said that she would have to wait at least 2 months in Brazil untill the visa is issued the person told me that she could come as a tourist. Brazillians don't need to appy for a visa to come here. They will get a stamp which allow to stay 3 months as a tourist.
If he has enough money for the stay and maybe a letter of you stating that you will pick him up at the airport and he will stay at your house it should be no reason to turn him away.
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Re: Non EU Marrying a Swiss B holder

Hi! My wife is already with me and I'm happy to tell that it all went really well and actually easy.

I asked first in the Gemeinde whether she could come as a tourist and to make the "Familien Nachzug" process while she was here.

As they answered positivly I went to Brazil for vacation, we got married there. We translated the document to German in Brazil and got a stamp from the Brazilian Foreign Minister.

After that she traveled for turist purposes and we issued the B-Permit in the first week she was here.

It took two weeks and they gave her a 5 years B-Permit as mine.

Hope the information help others =)
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Wow your thread came just at the right time!! My boyfriend came over on a three month tourist visa and we have now been told that it is not possible to get married on a tourist visa. To be honest it is turning out to be a real problem getting married in Switzerland so we have decided to do the same thing. We are planning to go to Brazil in April to get married. But can you tell me if you needed any special documents or to do anything special to get married in Brazil. What did the process involve? My boyfriend is going to go over in a couple of weeks to arrange everything and I just want to be sure that I have everything I need before I go out there. I have tried getting in touch with different consulates in Brazil but no one seems to be willing to give any answers! Can you help?!!
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Re: Non EU Marrying a Swiss B holder

I got married in Malaysia and after my marriage, my French hubby was hired to work in Switzerland and went on a five year Permit B. When I check with the Swiss embassy in Malaysia as to what I needed to do when I came over last year in February, I was just told to show up at the cantonal office and tell them that I'm here to join my husband. No visas, no nothing of the matter to apply for before I leave. This was in relations to the permit/visa agreements between Malaysia and Switzerland.

There was some discrepancy with the cantonal office here in Neuchatel and the diplomatic office in Malaysia so much so that the Consular had to write a nasty letter telling the cantonal office to do their homework before giving us folk the wrong info and sending us on a wild goosechase.

When I arrived, I reported to the cantonal office and was later send a letter with the necessary documents needed for a permit B - hubby's salary slips, apartment lease with my name on it as well, marriage papers, good conduct letter from the M'sian embassy and so forth. After submission of these documents, I was told that my permit would be ready in three weeks and rightly so.

It's a yearly Permit B allowing me to work and the condition is that it is valid so long as my marriage is valid. I just renewed it a couple of days ago with just my passport and permit.
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Re: Non EU Marrying a Swiss B holder

I have a similar question. My boyfriend is French and i am from new york. i am to meet him in april to visit (possibly marry) and then i will be moving in late june to be with him in geneva. does this mean while i am there (as a tourist) in april, i can't marry him in switzerland??? this was something we were looking into but if that's the case it may be better to get married in ny! thanks so much for any info!!!
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Re: Non EU Marrying a Swiss B holder

Technically when you seek a visa to come to swiss - you have to notify your intention to settle there (marriage for instance) and they have the right to take as long as they want to issue you a permit on this instance but again it varies from canton to canton.

Also swiss is under schengen Visa rules so please check them up too (so it means if you want to sneak in - you can have a visa from any other schengen state and get in (ofcourse you have to have an entry stamp from that schengen state you took the visa from if you are coming through any airport in Swiss or they can send you back)
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Wow your thread came just at the right time!! My boyfriend came over on a three month tourist visa and we have now been told that it is not possible to get married on a tourist visa. To be honest it is turning out to be a real problem getting married in Switzerland so we have decided to do the same thing. We are planning to go to Brazil in April to get married. But can you tell me if you needed any special documents or to do anything special to get married in Brazil. What did the process involve? My boyfriend is going to go over in a couple of weeks to arrange everything and I just want to be sure that I have everything I need before I go out there. I have tried getting in touch with different consulates in Brazil but no one seems to be willing to give any answers! Can you help?!!
Actually I am both italian and brazilian so they asked my brazilian documents to marry there. Sorry not to help you in this way.

What I noticed is that the permission to get married in a tourist visa is different from city to city. In Buchs (SG) for example they told me that it should be possible to get married here also when she was as a tourist.
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Re: Non EU Marrying a Swiss B holder

Hi frog,

In which canton they told you this? i checked in zurich and it's possible.

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Wow your thread came just at the right time!! My boyfriend came over on a three month tourist visa and we have now been told that it is not possible to get married on a tourist visa. To be honest it is turning out to be a real problem getting married in Switzerland so we have decided to do the same thing. We are planning to go to Brazil in April to get married. But can you tell me if you needed any special documents or to do anything special to get married in Brazil. What did the process involve? My boyfriend is going to go over in a couple of weeks to arrange everything and I just want to be sure that I have everything I need before I go out there. I have tried getting in touch with different consulates in Brazil but no one seems to be willing to give any answers! Can you help?!!
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