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Return as tourist after CDL expiry?

Hi all, I'd really appreciate advice on the following.

I have a carte de legitimation which is expiring soon. My plan was to take a holiday and return as a tourist after the carte expires. I do not require a visa to enter and stay of up to 90 days in Switzerland. Therefore the plan was to do 100 days on the CDL + 60 days as a tourist, before eventually flying back to my home country.

Is this allowed? I am asking as when I flew out of Switzerland, the immigration officer told me that I might not be allowed to reenter as a tourist, as my total stay would exceed 90 days. However, to my understanding, the days spent on the carte do not count towards the tourist allowance, so I am allowed to stay for an additional 90 days after the carte expires.

I'd appreciate any advice on this. Many thanks!
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Re: Return as tourist after CDL expiry?

As far as I'm aware that should be the case. If you're here with a valid CdL then you're still a resident - unless you've deregistered before the CdL's expiry date. If you have then the carte is only valid until that date, not it's expiry date. I'd check with the Swiss Mission and the Geneva migration office to be sure though.
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Re: Return as tourist after CDL expiry?

I've seen no mentioning in the rules that days spend on a visa do not count towards the 90 days rule, it would seem as disabuse to first spend 100 days on a CDL and than 90 days on the Schengen rules.

May I ask you where you got this understanding that the immigration officer would be wrong?
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Re: Return as tourist after CDL expiry?

I keep stumbling across this thread, so here is some official information I found:

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5.3 Can I stay in Switzerland or in another Schengen member state after my Swiss residence permit has expired?
If you require a visa for Switzerland, you can apply for one to the embassy or consulate of the Schengen member state of your main destination. The application must be submitted no later than 15 days before your Swiss residence permit expires. If your main destination is Switzerland, you can contact the cantonal immigration office in order to extend your stay.

If you do not require a visa for Switzerland, you can stay in the country for a further 90 (continuous) days. When travelling to another Schengen member state, you should ask the competent authorities of that member state whether and under what conditions you are permitted to stay in that country.
From: https://www.sem.admin.ch/sem/en/home...reise/faq.html

This assumes of course that a CDL is "a Swiss residence permit", which is the case, I guess, even though it's a weird one.


To comment on another user's remark: "I've seen no mentioning in the rules that days spend on a visa do not count towards the 90 days rule, it would seem as disabuse to first spend 100 days on a CDL and than 90 days on the Schengen rules.":
Instead, it would seem non-sensical to me to kick people out of the country instead of letting them enjoy their holidays and spend their money in Switzerland after working here.
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