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job seekers permit

hey guys am new here just a quick question how do i go about getting a job seekers permit after my studies .
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Old 12.03.2018, 08:22
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https://www.englishforum.ch/permits-...-problems.html
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Thank you but i was in final steps of applying to get a permit as i have found a potential employer so will give updates soon as possible
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Thank you but i was in final steps of applying to get a permit as i have found a potential employer so will give updates soon as possible
Then you're not a job seeker anymore and can't apply for anything. If you have a job offer, your employer applies for a work permit since you're non-EU.
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Re: job seekers permit

well was hoping to apply for a job seeker but now since got a potential employer hope goes well if not will again apply for job seeker.
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Re: New employment rules for non- EU swiss University graduates

So if I have a degree I can get a work permit non eu
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So if I have a degree I can get a work permit non eu
No. You need to find a job first and it is easier the 6 months after graduating in Switzerland because you can get a permit to search for a job
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Re: New employment rules for non- EU swiss University graduates

This is the relevant law.

https://www.sem.admin.ch/sem/en/home...abgaenger.html

If you haven't already managed to line a job up before you graduate, providing you have sufficient funds to support yourself, you can ask for a job seekers permit for up to 6 months. If you can find a job that meets the requirements outlined in the link then you should get a permit.
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Of course not. Having a degree from a Swiss university does NOT give you an automatic right to take up whatever work you want.

Is your question whether you can get a job seeker permit or an automatic work permit? Former yes (for 6 months), latter no. My understanding is that you supposedly have a job offer. If that is the case, check your previous thread: https://www.englishforum.ch/permits-...rs-permit.html

The job needs to be of some significance and frankly, that is rarely the case with entry-level jobs.
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...If that is the case, check your previous thread: https://www.englishforum.ch/permits-...rs-permit.html
Posts from the other thread now moved to this one, to keep the info in one place.
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Re: job seekers permit

thanks all for the input but to summarize i was initially planning to apply for a job seekers permit till i found a potential employer and applied directly for the work permit i informed my employer that he should write to migration office so now am just waiting.
if in case does not work out i can still start applying for the job seekers permit ?
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Re: job seekers permit

Yes, though you may not have as much as 6 months. I think they count that from your graduation date so if it takes a couple of months from graduation to rejection of the permit you'd only get a maximum of 4 months for further job hunting.
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Aah-ha okay.Will see how it goes and will keep you guys posted Thank you for the info.
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Aah-ha okay.Will see how it goes and will keep you guys posted Thank you for the info.
The best way to be sure you increase your chances of being given a permit is to ask your employer to publish the vancancy on different job sites for atleast 21 days before sending your contract for permit request. This will increase your chances of being given one. Which canton are you based?
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The best way to be sure you increase your chances of being given a permit is to ask your employer to publish the vancancy on different job sites for atleast 21 days before sending your contract for permit request. This will increase your chances of being given one. Which canton are you based?
The employer has to show any way that no Swiss/EU candidate could be found. Which is often quite difficult for entry level jobs
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Zurich. sure i can tell them that many thanks once again
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The employer has to show any way that no Swiss/EU candidate could be found. Which is often quite difficult for entry level jobs
Perfectly true. But if an employer really wants you, he can prepare a job description that perfectly fits your profile and difficult to find in the EU or Swiss job market. Except ypur employer is a big bank with firm roots. Usually, its much easier with them.
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Perfectly true. But if an employer really wants you, he can prepare a job description that perfectly fits your profile and difficult to find in the EU or Swiss job market. Except ypur employer is a big bank with firm roots. Usually, its much easier with them.
True, but much more difficult for entry level jobs
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Woow i see now my chances been slim and slim
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The employer has to show any way that no Swiss/EU candidate could be found. Which is often quite difficult for entry level jobs
No, they don't. This is a non-EU graduating from a Swiss uni so they are on an equal footing when it comes to hiring.

"Parliament passed the Neirynck initiative on June 18, 2010, a parliamentary initiative aimed at amending article 21 of the Foreign Nationals Act. The amendment provides for foreign nationals graduating from a Swiss university-level institution to be on an equal footing with Swiss nationals when it comes to entering the Swiss labor market.

To find employment, foreign nationals who have earned a Swiss university-level diploma will be entitled to stay in Switzerland for six more months from the time of completing their education or postgraduate studies. Those who are successful in securing employment will be issued a work permit, provided the prospective position involves an activity of particular scientific or economic importance."

The key to employment is that the activity is of particular scientific or economic importance, not that they can't find a Swiss/EU national.
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