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Family Reunification

Hi everyone! First of all excuse my english

Well, I'm researching on how to go to Switzerland under the family reunification scheme but there's a lot of misinformation on the web.

My mother has been married with a Swiss national for over 10 years, & a few years ago she has received her Swiss passport, actually its been almost 4 years since.

I'm 25 years old, Brazilian & would like to know if i can benefit from this & go to live in Switzerland? If so, What type of visa am i be getting? & do i necessarily need to live with them? & how to apply for this? what is the process like?

Thanks a lot. Below is some information gathered about this.

https://www.ch.ch/en/family-reunification-eu-efta/

This website states:

"EU/EFTA citizens holding a Swiss residence permit may bring the following family members to Switzerland under the family reunification programme, regardless of their nationality:

Children and grandchildren under the age of 21, or older if they can be supported financially,

The following requirements must be met in order for family reunification to take place:

Your apartment must be large enough by Swiss standards to accommodate the entire family.
If you are self-employed or not employed: you must prove that you have adequate financial resources to cover the living expenses of family members.

The residence permits of your family members have the same period of validity as your own. Spouses and children of EU/EFTA citizens may also take up work in Switzerland."
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Re: Family Reunification

It's fairly simple, if they have a room for you and the financials to support you you can come over. From there you can find a job and eventually move out on your own.

However there will be a lot of paperwork, and it will take some time, and finding a job here might be harder than you think.

Immediately getting a place on your own if compared to Brazil freakingly expensive and unless there is really a lot of money in the family not an option.
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Re: Family Reunification

do you know if i can lodge the application onshore?
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Re: Family Reunification

Art. 42 Family members of Swiss nationals
1 The foreign spouse and unmarried children under 18 of a Swiss national who live with the Swiss national are entitled to be granted a residence permit and to have their residence permit extended.
2 Foreign family members of Swiss nationals are entitled to be granted a residence permit and to have their residence permit extended if they are in the possession of a permanent residence permit from a country with which an agreement on the free movement of persons has been concluded. Family members are:
a. the spouse and the relatives in the descending line who are under 21 or who are dependants;
b. the relatives of either spouse in the ascending line who are dependants.
3 After a law-abiding and uninterrupted period of stay of five years, a foreign spouse is entitled to be granted a permanent residence permit.
4 Children under twelve are entitled to be granted a permanent residence permit.

https://www.admin.ch/opc/en/classifi...index.html#a42

In English for your benefit.

If you have a permanent residence permit from an EU or EFTA state you can benefit from a family permit.

If you don't I'm afraid you're too old as the limit is 18 years old art. 42 para. 1
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Art. 42 Family members of Swiss nationals
1 The foreign spouse and unmarried children under 18 of a Swiss national who live with the Swiss national are entitled to be granted a residence permit and to have their residence permit extended.
2 Foreign family members of Swiss nationals are entitled to be granted a residence permit and to have their residence permit extended if they are in the possession of a permanent residence permit from a country with which an agreement on the free movement of persons has been concluded. Family members are:
a. the spouse and the relatives in the descending line who are under 21 or who are dependants;
b. the relatives of either spouse in the ascending line who are dependants.
3 After a law-abiding and uninterrupted period of stay of five years, a foreign spouse is entitled to be granted a permanent residence permit.
4 Children under twelve are entitled to be granted a permanent residence permit.

https://www.admin.ch/opc/en/classifi...index.html#a42

In English for your benefit.

If you have a permanent residence permit from an EU or EFTA state you can benefit from a family permit.

If you don't I'm afraid you're too old as the limit is 18 years old art. 42 para. 1

that was very helpful! Sad news though

Thanks
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Re: Family Reunification

[QUOTE=ikaro;2942398]Hi everyone! First of all excuse my english

Well, I'm researching on how to go to Switzerland under the family reunification scheme but there's a lot of misinformation on the web.

My mother has been married with a Swiss national for over 10 years, & a few years ago she has received her Swiss passport, actually its been almost 4 years since.

I'm 25 years old, Brazilian & would like to know if i can benefit from this & go to live in Switzerland? If so, What type of visa am i be getting? & do i necessarily need to live with them? & how to apply for this? what is the process like?

Thanks a lot. Below is some information gathered about this.

https://www.ch.ch/en/family-reunification-eu-efta/

This website states:

"EU/EFTA citizens holding a Swiss residence permit may bring the following family members to Switzerland under the family reunification programme, regardless of their nationality:

Children and grandchildren under the age of 21, or older if they can be supported financially,

The following requirements must be met in order for family reunification to take place:

Your apartment must be large enough by Swiss standards to accommodate the entire family.
If you are self-employed or not employed: you must prove that you have adequate financial resources to cover the living expenses of family members.

The residence permits of your family members have the same period of validity as your own. Spouses and children of EU/EFTA citizens may also take up work in Switzerland."[/QUOTE


Hi Ikaro,

Base n my experienced,it depends on the canton where you're sponsor (parents)are living.there are some
Canton that a mother needs to apply the papers before her 1st year of stay here in ch for children who is 16 years of age up to 18,ex.bern)
I have 5 children and it takes a lot of effort,money and courage to bring my children here.my eldest is 17 that time and when i start her papers for family reunification i am already 1 year and 1 day here.but despite of that situation i still manage to save my daughter for the reason my 4 children are still young and she cannot stay in my country.so we did all the papers,translation etc.
We saw a big hope after few months but theimmigration ask to get atleast 5 bed rooms or big space for the whole family.i manage to get but its in canton aargau.without any knowledge about the immigration law we took this house and the big problem start again..we need to start the processing from 9 to zero,a new application again anew law a new rules..i am desperate after 4 months and i cant see any hope i decided to get a lawyer ..thanks god after long battle my children recieved the approval..and they are here happily living in switzerland for almost 5 years..doing very good in school in their academic subjects and already adopt the culture and tradition..
Goodluck n your application..dont give just try your best..
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Hi Ikaro,

Base n my experienced,it depends on the canton where you're sponsor (parents)are living.there are some
Canton that a mother needs to apply the papers before her 1st year of stay here in ch for children who is 16 years of age up to 18,ex.bern)
I have 5 children and it takes a lot of effort,money and courage to bring my children here.my eldest is 17 that time and when i start her papers for family reunification i am already 1 year and 1 day here.but despite of that situation i still manage to save my daughter for the reason my 4 children are still young and she cannot stay in my country.so we did all the papers,translation etc.
We saw a big hope after few months but theimmigration ask to get atleast 5 bed rooms or big space for the whole family.i manage to get but its in canton aargau.without any knowledge about the immigration law we took this house and the big problem start again..we need to start the processing from 9 to zero,a new application again anew law a new rules..i am desperate after 4 months and i cant see any hope i decided to get a lawyer ..thanks god after long battle my children recieved the approval..and they are here happily living in switzerland for almost 5 years..doing very good in school in their academic subjects and already adopt the culture and tradition..
Goodluck n your application..dont give just try your best..
Good for you but OP is well over the age of reunification that way
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Re: Family Reunification

In any case, it's the OP mother who needs to apply for family reunification, he can't do it himself. It's his mother who has to show her accommodation is big enough for everyone and that she can financially support him. She needs to contact the cantonal migration office and make enquiries as to whether it would be possible due to a) your age and b) the fact she's a naturalised Swiss. Not sure if there may be different rules for naturalised as opposed to Swiss born nationals with older children.
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Re: Family Reunification

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In any case, it's the OP mother who needs to apply for family reunification, he can't do it himself. It's his mother who has to show her accommodation is big enough for everyone and that she can financially support him. She needs to contact the cantonal migration office and make enquiries as to whether it would be possible due to a) your age and b) the fact she's a naturalised Swiss. Not sure if there may be different rules for naturalised as opposed to Swiss born nationals with older children.
No difference. A naturalized Swiss is as Swiss as it gets (at least in law).

Since OP doesn't have a direct right to a family permit due to age, another avenue to pursue would be making a case based on the following:

"Foreign nationals shall also be admitted if international law obligations, humanitarian grounds or the unity of the family so requires." art. 3 para. 2

"Derogations from the admission requirements (Art. 18-29) are permitted in order to: ...
take account of serious cases of personal hardship or important public interests" art. 30 para. 1b

This will be entirely up to the canton to decide and then for Bern at federal level to approve. If you do it right in a national language quoting laws etc. and make it look non-fishy who knows it may work out. Biggest headwind is that you're a 25 year-old with (I presume) complete capacity to work but that's not up to me to decide.
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Re: Family Reunification

Good to know mohmal.

Unfortunately I can't see any of those working for him either. If his mother has been here for over 10 years I can't see family unity being an option and yeah, the Swiss are going to expect a 25 year old to be supporting himself. Not to say he isn't in financial straits, but that would have to be proven to the Swiss authorities satisfaction.
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