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We got C Permits after 5 years of residency (L + B +B) and I wasn't working on the L. I'm non-EU. I just went back through the dates and our L permit year definately counted for us torwards the 5 years.
The rules are different if you are on a dependent permit rather than a main non-EU permit holder.
And then they are even different depending on whether your partner is Swiss, an EU citizen, has a C permit or has an L/B permit.
You were probably granted a C permit together with your partner and it was them actually fulfilling the requirements. I've seen a couple of such cases
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The rules are different if you are on a dependent permit rather than a main non-EU permit holder.
And then they are even different depending on whether your partner is Swiss, an EU citizen, has a C permit or has an L/B permit.
You were probably granted a C permit together with your partner and it was them actually fulfilling the requirements. I've seen a couple of such cases
My husband and kids got a C Permit, me a B and I applied on my own for a C Permit through early integration. I found the forms thanks to this forum.
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We got C Permits after 5 years of residency (L + B +B) and I wasn't working on the L. I'm non-EU. I just went back through the dates and our L permit year definately counted for us torwards the 5 years.
What I understood is that the L counts in the 5 years if the contract is unlimited. For my case the study years won't be counted unless I have a permit for two years after studies. Look like the 'L' is not considered valid for those two years in the reasoning of the migration office...
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What I understood is that the L counts in the 5 years if the contract is unlimited. For my case the study years won't be counted unless I have a permit for two years after studies. Look like the 'L' is not considered valid for those two years in the reasoning of the migration office...
We were given L Permits because my husband had a limited 1 year contract. In my case that year counted towards my 5 years. It must just be the study years that don't count unless you remain a resident 2 years after studies.
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Re: Early C Permit, Non EU

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I'm not sure there is a language test required for a C permit?
In Lugano indeed, even for non-eu requiring early C permit, the official language exam might not be mandatory. However people usually have 2 appointments with local officers and very basic Italian is necessary for the communication.
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Re: Early C Permit, Non EU

only B permit counts. i got an early C permit after 8 years with B permit (non-EU)
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Old 08.09.2018, 16:38
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only B permit counts. i got an early C permit after 8 years with B permit (non-EU)
Incorrect, under certain circumstances it can count. see post 8
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only B permit counts. i got an early C permit after 8 years with B permit (non-EU)
Indeed incorrect. I am non EU, I was on L for 2 years, B on 3 years and then was able to get a C.
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We got C Permits after 5 years of residency (L + B +B) and I wasn't working on the L. I'm non-EU. I just went back through the dates and our L permit year definately counted for us torwards the 5 years.
Hi, I have a similar case and they asked me to provide Nachweis for having been working here for 5 years but I actually worked for 4 years and 1 year MBA study, and all 5 years count, so I am preparing the documents according to Migration office's request, so can you please share how you prepared the Nachweis for having been working here for 5 years (Nachweis from the company as well as from the university)?

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only B permit counts. i got an early C permit after 8 years with B permit (non-EU)

It all depends on which canton you reside. For example in Canton Zurich 2L+3B (with permanent contract from the beginning) would probably be eligible for an early C permit for Non-EU whereas in Canton Bern the two years L would not be counted.
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Re: Early C Permit, Non EU

After nearly three months from starting this topic I have an update. Last week I got my C-Permit I'm writing this as information for whoever comes across a similar situation in the future.

The story is after I got my initial rejection and people here confirmed that the migrations office is correct in their denial of my application, I called the office by phone expressing my opinion about their strict self contradictory interpretation of the laws regarding the L permits in multiple aspects and the gentleman over the phone told me to reply in writing. I sent afterwards a short hopeless e-mail, citing the law and highlighting the contradictions in their interpretations. Surprisingly after a couple weeks they sent me a letter asking for the supporting documents which I sent back and got a confirmation that my application was accepted in about two weeks! There was an extra delay as I had a late appointment to re-new my biometric data but that was normal. At the end I have my shiny new C permit valid for five years which feels so great after all that struggles

Thanks again for everyone who tried to help here, and for everyone who comes across something similar in their future, I hope my story would help.
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Early Permit C - Non EU

Good day all,

I am interested in applying for an early C Permit as a Non-EU (Australian).

I started working in Switzerland in Jan 2018. Initially, I had an L permit for 1.5 years. After that, I have an unrestricted B permit. I work for a Swiss company in Vaud.

Looking at the criteria listed online, I understand that I may be able to apply for the early C permit.

After 5 years of residency in Switzerland holding a B permit, the fast-tracked C permit or “permit C anticipé” can in some cases be requested, if the applicant fulfills the integration requirements (art. 34 al. 4 LEI). After 10 years of residency in Switzerland, a C permit holder is allowed to apply for Swiss citizenship if the conditions are met.

https://www.legalexpatgeneva.com/swi...hoCd2kQAvD_BwE

I already learnt French at the B1 level. My confusion really is whether an L permit is considered in the 5 years. The text above states "holding a B Permit". Is that holding for 5 years continuously or holding before application for early C Permit?

Many thanks!
Sam
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Re: Early C Permit, Non EU

Hi Sam (JohntheGrocer),

As your question is similar, I've merged your post into a thread from a few years ago. Hopefully some of the information in this thread helps.
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Hi Everyone,

I have been living in Zurich for five years now. I spent the first two years on a student permit, two years later I had an L-Permit on an unlimited contract and then a B-Permit for a year. According to my understanding I am eligible for applying for the early C permit based on good integration.

I received a rejection few days ago stating that I don't fulfil the five years criteria. They argue that the study years are only included if followed by a two years and they say it started with the B permit. For some reason, they don't consider the L permit after the studies to be included in the two years
required to include the study years.

To be more precise, here is the interesting paragraph in their reply:



If I understand the laws correctly, Short stay permits should be counted if the work contract is unlimited, as mentioned here:



Did anybody have a similar experience or has more information about this? Thanks a lot for your help!

L permit is counted in the normal 10 years C permit, not in the early C permit. Early C must be continuous B permit in the past 5 years. This is clear in the law.
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L permit is counted in the normal 10 years C permit, not in the early C permit. Early C must be continuous B permit in the past 5 years. This is clear in the law.
In the law, yes, but the law uses the word 'Aufenthaltsbewilligung' which is a word that can mean both any 'normal' permit as well as specifically a B permit. Federal guidelines to implementing this law allow to count years spent on an L permit towards those 5 years if the permit was based on a permanent contract. Some cantons do that (Zurich definitely does, me and a lot of acquaintances got their early C after having 2 L + 3 B permits). I don't know if Vaud does this, one would need to ask the immigration office.
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In the law, yes, but the law uses the word 'Aufenthaltsbewilligung' which is a word that can mean both any 'normal' permit as well as specifically a B permit. Federal guidelines to implementing this law allow to count years spent on an L permit towards those 5 years if the permit was based on a permanent contract. Some cantons do that (Zurich definitely does, me and a lot of acquaintances got their early C after having 2 L + 3 B permits). I don't know if Vaud does this, one would need to ask the immigration office.
I am in Aargau, several years ago I and my wife both had 2L + 3B, with permanent contract, but was told by immigration office that 2L didn't count. We got our C permit this year after 10 years.
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