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Only the following are exempt due to individual treaties they have with Switzerland.

EU nationalities language exemption: Belgium, Germany, Denmark, France, Liechtenstein, Greece, Italy, Netherlands, Austria, Portugal and Spain.

I can't seem to find this being stated anywhere in the migrationsamt page. Could you provide a source of information for this affirmation?
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The authoritative regulation on this is called VZAE/OASA. (German, French).

As far as only B permits are concerned, the A1/2 requirements for extension only apply for dependents and not to primary permit holders with the single exception of the profession of teachers and religious preachers (Art. 22a).

Isn't this Canton specific?
I am in Canton Zug (primary permit holder) and I thought Canton rules applied but I can't find any link to official documents...and as I am not A1 certified I probably couldn't read them anyway
I think I'll ask my German teacher for a certificate of German course attendance or something though just in case!
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I can't seem to find this being stated anywhere in the migrationsamt page. Could you provide a source of information for this affirmation?
https://www.sem.admin.ch/dam/data/se...petenzen-d.pdf
also "Liste der Niederlassungsvereinbarungen"
https://www.sem.admin.ch/sem/de/home...rundlagen.html
there is a link to this page on the Canton Aargau Website. But you are right, the canton Argau is not very ubiquitous about this posibility
https://www.ag.ch/de/dvi/migration_i...757&accordId=0

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Isn't this Canton specific?
I am in Canton Zug (primary permit holder) and I thought Canton rules applied but I can't find any link to official documents...and as I am not A1 certified I probably couldn't read them anyway
I think I'll ask my German teacher for a certificate of German course attendance or something though just in case!
Federal level specifies minimum. Cantons can go higher. A course certificate might be enough. But they might also request a language certificate form a recognized institution such as Goethe or TELC or a Schweizer Sprachenpass.
https://www.fide-info.ch/en/sprachnachweise

https://www.sem.admin.ch/dam/data/se...petenzen-d.pdf
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Old 06.02.2019, 17:03
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I can't seem to find this being stated anywhere in the migrationsamt page. Could you provide a source of information for this affirmation?
Here's Zug canton's page with it.

https://www.fmzug.ch/en/learn-german...it-citizenship
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Re: New language requirements for B/C permit renewal?

I've always wondered how you get a split-level proficiency. A2 written and B1 spoken, for example. Do the tests rank you at a level according to where you stop getting questions right? I had the impression it was a matter of taking a test for a certain level, and either passing or failing.
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Re: New language requirements for B/C permit renewal?

Forgive me if this has been covered already...

Are there any provisions made for those who are deaf? What about the case of those have hearing loss but are not certifiably deaf?

The spoken parts of the tests pose special difficulties for those with even mild hearing loss.

Come to think of it the question also apply to loss of sight, possibly other disabilities as well.

Anyone know if accommodations can be made, either in how the tests are taken and scored, or in the law itself - and if so how to proceed?
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Re: New language requirements for B/C permit renewal?

I have attended B2 German,but I do not have an official certificate can I apply with the documents that I made thru B2 for my C permit or no.
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Old 26.07.2019, 16:30
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I have attended B2 German,but I do not have an official certificate can I apply with the documents that I made thru B2 for my C permit or no.
Nope, presentation of a certificate from an approved test institute is required.
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I have attended B2 German,but I do not have an official certificate can I apply with the documents that I made thru B2 for my C permit or no.
Please see this thread here https://www.englishforum.ch/permits-...a-c-basel.html how you may can get an accepted paper (fide Sprachenpass) for CHF 140.
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Re: New language requirements for B/C permit renewal?

Hello All EFers,

I plan to start the A1 classes soon, but I am slightly confused.
I was thinking to opt for Migroschule classes and migroschule told that they will provide a certificate if I attend 80% classes.

Is this certificate from Migroschule enough for Canton authorities at the time of renewal or I need to also give an exam(and pass the exam) at Goethe or Telc or similar institute
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Is this certificate from Migroschule enough for Canton authorities at the time of renewal or I need to also give an exam(and pass the exam) at Goethe or Telc or similar institute
You need to sit the official exam with Telc or Goethe.

As an aside, whilst most people would opt for Telc exams up to C level and Goethe for C1 and C2, I've been informed by Indian friends that they prefer Goethe because it's more recognised in their home country.
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Hello All EFers,

I plan to start the A1 classes soon, but I am slightly confused.
I was thinking to opt for Migroschule classes and migroschule told that they will provide a certificate if I attend 80% classes.

Is this certificate from Migroschule enough for Canton authorities at the time of renewal or I need to also give an exam(and pass the exam) at Goethe or Telc or similar institute
It appears that L/B renewal doesn't require a certificate as such but it's recommended to join a language class so that it helps with a C permit later on.

https://migrationsamt.tg.ch/public/u...16.01.2019.pdf

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Re: New language requirements for B/C permit renewal?

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Sorry but that isn't the full picture as these links show...

https://home.kpmg/ch/en/blogs/home/p...uirements.html

https://lenews.ch/2019/01/04/renewal...d-integration/

https://blog.newlandchase.com/switze...idence-permits

https://blogs.deloitte.ch/tax/2019/0...e-permits.html

https://taxinsights.ey.com/archive/a...uirements.aspx

https://www.thelocal.ch/20180813/are...ss-citizenship
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Re: New language requirements for B/C permit renewal?

I am not denying what the news say, however we have yet to come across an official statement/link/document from SEM/Kanton that requires a proper language certificate for a 'renewal'.
As far as I am aware they only ask from the trailing spouse (not the main permit holder) a confirmation that (s)he visits a language course.
No doubt the things would change but just that it hasn't 'changed'
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Re: New language requirements for B/C permit renewal?

I can at least confirm that moving within same canton and changing the C permit address does not trigger any questions from the authorities, language requirements etc..

I just moved house start of July, handed in old permits, got new permits three weeks later, no questions asked.

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Re: New language requirements for B/C permit renewal?

Has anyone actually renewed their C Permit under these new rules for 2019?

I always understood that the C Permit renewal process is basically just ensuring that you are still alive and no other checks are necessary, not even checking if you have a job or anything else. Is this true?
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Has anyone actually renewed their C Permit under these new rules for 2019?

I always understood that the C Permit renewal process is basically just ensuring that you are still alive and no other checks are necessary, not even checking if you have a job or anything else. Is this true?
Not any more, no. New rules have made it more difficult to get renewals.
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Has anyone actually renewed their C Permit under these new rules for 2019?

I always understood that the C Permit renewal process is basically just ensuring that you are still alive and no other checks are necessary, not even checking if you have a job or anything else. Is this true?
We have, no problem at all. No checks and no language certificates requested.
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We have, no problem at all. No checks and no language certificates requested.
What was your actual renewal process? Just fill a form and pay? Anything specific like checking to see if you are employed etc.?
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