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03.08.2020, 19:16
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Question for those who might know
I received a letter from Bern asking for me to sign and return two documents. One document ("Erklärung betreffend eheliche Gemeinschaft") is to be signed by me and the husband. The other document ("...öffentlichen Sicherheit und Ordnung" requires a Legal Representative in addition to my signature.
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03.08.2020, 19:36
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| | Re: My Facilitated Naturalization application experience | Quote: | |  | | | Question for those who might know 
I received a letter from Bern asking for me to sign and return two documents. One document ("Erklärung betreffend eheliche Gemeinschaft") is to be signed by me and the husband. The other document ("...öffentlichen Sicherheit und Ordnung" requires a Legal Representative in addition to my signature.
Can anyone advise who should sign as a Legal Representative?  | | | | | What does it say in German?
Edit: Found a sample https://www.baden.ch/public/upload/a...such_Art27.pdf
It is the legal guardian in case of a minor or a person not capable to act on its own.
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03.08.2020, 20:01
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03.08.2020, 22:25
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I don't think you need to do anything with that unless someone else is your guardian. I checked my forms just now, and I only signed and dated the top line. The second line is blank. And I'm Swiss since a few years so it must have been okay. | This user would like to thank 3Wishes for this useful post: | | 
03.08.2020, 22:40
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Danke!
I just heard back from a friend who confirms this as well. Well. THAT makes it a whole lot easier | This user would like to thank DantesDame for this useful post: | | 
04.08.2020, 11:13
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| | Re: My Facilitated Naturalization application experience | Quote: | |  | | | Thanks, but wrong letter (I already sent that one in ). Here is what I have now: | | | | | Which is the same as the above (using less words and only one language). Still means legal guardian. | 
13.08.2020, 17:09
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I just received notification that the Federal government has approved my application
Now I need to wait 30 days for the Heimat (Zürich) to approve me and then it is just a matter of the paperwork being sent out. Once everything is finalized with Zürich, I can request my passport and ID card from the Basel Gemeinde. The letter indicated that it could be about three months before I can request the ID documents.
FYI, I started the process in March 2019.
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14.08.2020, 17:15
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| | Re: My Facilitated Naturalization application experience | Quote: | |  | | | ...Now I need to wait 30 days for the Heimat (Zürich) to approve me and then it is just a matter of the paperwork being sent out... | | | | | That sounds weird to me.  The Heimatort and the place you reside don't get to decide anything. Facilitated naturalization is governed by federal law. At most the Heimatort and residence gemeinde can protest within those 30 days that you're not eligible because you're a criminal or have debts, but that's it.
But yes, it takes a bit of time. Trying to recall my rough timeline, not all details will be exact: - April: Received letter mentioning the official approval and the 30 days for people to protest
- May: radio silence
- June: Received letter saying I was officially a citizen as of XX May. Took that letter to my current municipality, which contacted the Heimatort for a new family book (which these days is just a piece of paper). Once they had that, my current muni charged me some money of course, and gave me paperwork to apply for the passport and ID card. I think that appointment was a further two weeks out.
- early July: passport and ID card in hand
You're nearly there!
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14.08.2020, 17:49
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| | Re: My Facilitated Naturalization application experience | Quote: | |  | | | At most the Heimatort and residence gemeinde can protest within those 30 days that you're not eligible because you're a criminal or have debts, but that's it. | | | | | Yep, that's all it is, really. And the letter from Bern was rather funny because they said "This can take a bit of time" - like they admit that the process is slow My timeline:
January 2019 - take language test (TELC); wait for results (pass!)
March 2019 - submit all documents to Bern
August 2019 - Bern asks for a missing document
March 2020 - Basel asks for a document
April 2020 - Basel calls and conducts a phone interview, also asking for my CV
August 2020 - Bern asks me to fill out two forms
August 2020 - Bern confirms that my application has been approved and needs to go through my Heimat before I can proceed
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17.08.2020, 16:50
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We are in the same shoes, I’ve just got this “30 days” letter last week....
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20.08.2020, 01:26
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Hei Everyone,
So i applied for my facilitated naturalisation last Oct just got invited to my einbürgerungsgespräch or the interview to Gemeinde here in Aargau, in 2 weeks. preparing and wondering what would be asked during this session, can you maybe share some of your experiences?
would be highly appreciated.
Cheers
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January 2019 - take language test (TELC); wait for results (pass!)
March 2019 - submit all documents to Bern
August 2019 - Bern asks for a missing document
March 2020 - Basel asks for a document
April 2020 - Basel calls and conducts a phone interview, also asking for my CV
August 2020 - Bern asks me to fill out two forms
August 2020 - Bern confirms that my application has been approved and needs to go through my Heimat before I can proceed | | | | | | This user would like to thank Dariush for this useful post: | | 
20.08.2020, 11:44
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Hi Dariush
That was fast - lucky you!
When I had my phone interview, she asked me about the following:
- number of cantons
- name the half cantons
- year Switzerland came into being
- name three Swiss newspapers
- name three famous Swiss people
- what kind of hobbies do I have
- general question about Swiss friends
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21.08.2020, 15:56
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Thanks everyone, very very helpful.
I also found a document form Kanton Zurich (despite mine is in Aargau) to prepare me. https://www.stadt-zuerich.ch/portal/...gespraech.html
write you back when i did the interview in 2 weeks....till then cheers
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21.08.2020, 21:46
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Hello everyone
I’m having my simplified naturalization interview in the city of BERN,
canton police in close
to 2 weeks.
Did anyone have it recently?
And what did they ask you?
I’m panicking a bit as there is so much to cover.
They’ve sent me a link to the booklet “der Bund kurz erklärt“ (80ish pages).
It’s about politics and the parliament.
I’ve been doing some other history readings.
They also said they will test Knowledge of geography, values and society.
I feel I failed already. 
Anyone pls let me know if you got the same in Bern???
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04.09.2020, 17:29
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Hello All,
Just came back from my interview. Took around 50 minutes in a very easy and calm environment have to say.
- 5 min she mentioned about the process, what we plan to do and that we will speak in German. she asked if she can talk dialect and i said sure, just if i did not understand i will ask you to repeat and she was fine with that.
-10min - she started with why you want to become Swiss and continued with Gemeinde and marriage questions , Steuern(paid not paid), Sozialhilfe(taken not taken), criminal record, right marriage, no divorce planned...and i was answering all with Ja und Nein.
30min- questions about Geography, politics , rights & responsibilities, history , famous people, languages, holidays, 3 founding cantons, wahlen und stimmen (27.09.2020) and the clubs you are part of and if not mention you are not but you would like to be part of one.
5min- closing questions, what is Switzerland to me , if i like politics, and if i have any questions which i asked how the process will go from here.
I find this document very ( VEEEERRYY) helpful and it is apparently same document for all cantons and they asked exact same questions:
https://www.ag.ch/media/kanton_aargau/dvi/dokumente_5/arp_1/buergerrecht_und_personenstand_1/einbuergerungen/handbuch_ordentliche_einbuergerung_ab_01_07_2020/Anhang_4-Themenvorschlaege_Fragebeispiele_fuer_Einbuergerun gsgespraech.pdf[/URL]
my advise, be friendly and show you are interested, the first encounter is a good way to build impression of you and last, I think the most important question is why you want to be Swiss.
now i wait until i hear from Bund if they accept my application or not. fingers crossed it goes fast. Keep you all posted.
Cheers and good luck
Dariush
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09.09.2020, 21:09
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My husband has applied in July. Beforehand, we checked all requirements and were told that any Swiss language is OK. Can anyone confirm this? My husband speaks fluently French and also works in the French part but we live in the German-speaking part of Switzerland. His German is not good at all.
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| | Re: My Facilitated Naturalization application experience | Quote: | |  | | | My husband has applied in July. Beforehand, we checked all requirements and were told that any Swiss language is OK. Can anyone confirm this? My husband speaks fluently French and also works in the French part but we live in the German-speaking part of Switzerland. His German is not good at all. | | | | | Might depend on the canton, but I very much doubt that is the case generally.
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09.09.2020, 21:40
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| | Re: My Facilitated Naturalization application experience | Quote: | |  | | | Might depend on the canton, but I very much doubt that is the case generally. | | | | | It is a Swiss wide rule and in case of facilitate naturalization the canton has not much to say.
For language requirement for facilitated we have to look into the Swiss Citizenship Act (Which btw. is available in English).
The language requirement are defined in Art. 20 with reference to Art. 12. Fluency in one of the national languages is good enough. See also Section 512/12 of Chapter 5 of the SEM Handbook https://www.sem.admin.ch/sem/de/home...rgerrecht.html | The following 3 users would like to thank aSwissInTheUS for this useful post: | | 
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| | Re: My Facilitated Naturalization application experience | Quote: | |  | | | It is a Swiss wide rule and in case of facilitate naturalization the canton has not much to say.
For language requirement for facilitated we have to look into the Swiss Citizenship Act (Which btw. is available in English).
The language requirement are defined in Art. 20 with reference to Art. 12. Fluency in one of the national languages is good enough. See also Section 512/12 of Chapter 5 of the SEM Handbook https://www.sem.admin.ch/sem/de/home...rgerrecht.html | | | | | Thank you. So it is enough to be fluent in French even though we live in the German-speaking part, right ? I ask again because I suddenly had doubts, although I got that information from our Canton.
I just wonder how the interview will be done... French is not a preferred language in the German-speaking part.
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