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Old 07.02.2019, 21:18
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Wow. I can't figure what sort of marriage arrangements are you having in mind. I would be surprised if your future to be wife will agree with this!
When my wife and I got married, SHE wanted a separation of assets, but both I and her long term lawyer convinced her that it would be against her own interests!

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Old 07.02.2019, 21:29
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When my wife and I got married, SHE wanted a separation of assets, but both I and her long term lawyer convinced her that it would be against her own interests!

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Very pragmatic, isn't it. It was never a topic of discussions for us.
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Old 07.02.2019, 21:44
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Very pragmatic, isn't it. It was never a topic of discussions for us.
I take it that you didn't get married in Switzerland, then?

In Switzerland, you have to decide one of the three options.

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In Switzerland, you have to decide one of the three options.
You don't have to decide. If no decision is taken, there is always a default one
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Old 08.02.2019, 09:17
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Re: Marriage in Switzerland without any obligations possible?

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Is that you, Jeff B.?
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Old 08.02.2019, 09:37
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You don't have to decide. If no decision is taken, there is always a default one
We had to decide, it was part of the process, same with names.

No decision, no marriage.

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Old 08.02.2019, 09:38
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I take it that you didn't get married in Switzerland, then?

In Switzerland, you have to decide one of the three options.

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Three? What's the third besides the separate and joint assets?
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Three? What's the third besides the separate and joint assets?
The default: participation in gain / Accrual System (Errungenschaftbeteiligung).

https://www.ch.ch/en/matrimonial-regime/
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I know many people for whom the separation of assets has worked out well.

Tom

The concept itself is fine. In many cases, it’s an intelligent and responsible option. If mutually communicated and well thought out and with input from professionals in the field, it may even be largely beneficial.

That’s does not seem to be the case here. It’s either a citizenship sham, which I want no part in enabling, or a multi-track catastrophe which neither party or their families and friends deserve.

I guess it’s also possible it might not even be a real post. Maybe some dragonwings or dragonlady or whatever it was trolling.
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The default: participation in gain / Accrual System (Errungenschaftbeteiligung).

https://www.ch.ch/en/matrimonial-regime/
I meant the accrual system above (Errungenschaftsbeteiligung), didn't know you can join them completely.
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Re: Marriage in Switzerland without any obligations possible?

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Then there wouldn't be any kids.
doesn't that depend on how well the wife gets on with the milkman and the plumber?
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Re: Marriage in Switzerland without any obligations possible?

Great stuff guys! Thanks! Seems like marriage is not the solution even though there is much outside pressure to do so. Seems like people often marry because of outside pressure. Marriage is not unnecessary pressure to keep a marriage together. In my opinion relationships are like soap. The harder you squeeze the further i flies

Ps. Interesting that there is several "hater" posts
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Great stuff guys! Thanks! Seems like marriage is not the solution even though there is much outside pressure to do so. Seems like people often marry because of outside pressure. Marriage is not unnecessary pressure to keep a marriage together. In my opinion relationships are like soap. The harder you squeeze the further i flies

Ps. Interesting that there is several "hater" posts
Soap takes work and commitment and respect. Or it gets in your delicate bits and stings like fury.
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Great stuff guys! Thanks! Seems like marriage is not the solution even though there is much outside pressure to do so. Seems like people often marry because of outside pressure. Marriage is not unnecessary pressure to keep a marriage together. In my opinion relationships are like soap. The harder you squeeze the further i flies

Ps. Interesting that there is several "hater" posts
Yes OP, take the haters' advice and don't get married. Ever!
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