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New Quotas for UK citizens - Brexit

Swiss Federal government released this statement today on UK citizen quotas for 2019:


"In the event of the UK's disorderly withdrawal from the European Union, the Agreement on Free Movement of Persons (AFMP) will no longer apply between Switzerland and the UK from 30 March. UK citizens entering Switzerland for the first time will basically be accorded the same rights as other third country citizens. For admission to take up employment, the requirements set out in the Foreign Nationals and Integration Act (FNIA) apply. However, if the UK leaves the EU on the basis of a withdrawal agreement, the current provisions of the AFMP will continue to apply in relations between Switzerland and the UK during a transitional period

(expected to last until the end of 2020).



As part of its ‘Mind the Gap' strategy, the Federal Council decided at its meeting on 13 February to introduce a separate quota as a temporary measure, allowing 3,500 British citizens to work in Switzerland."


"Quota of 3,500 places
The maximum numbers for British citizens should apply from 30 March until 31 December."


"This year, it should be possible to recruit a total of 3,500 workers from the UK: 2,100 residence permits (B) and 1,400 short-stay permits (L). This will guarantee the flexibility that the Swiss economy needs."


https://www.admin.ch/gov/en/start/do...-id-73962.html
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Re: New Quotas for UK citizens - Brexit

Interesting... but as with all 'metrics', only makes sense in context.. what's the average number of Brits awarded a permit per year over, say, the past 5 years ?

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Immigration from the UK (nationality):

2008: 5773
2009: 5045
2010: 5697
2011: 5523
2012: 4664
2013: 4922
2014: 4655
2015: 4312
2016: 3902
2017: 4119


Emigration:

2008: 2642
2009: 2521
2010: 3501
2011: 3325
2012: 3687
2013: 3681
2014: 3783
2015: 3853
2016: 3830
2017: 3435
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Rubbing my hands with glee that I can get my hands on the rest of my blasted pillar 2 instead of it sitting earning 0.1% interest in a vested benefits account.
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Immigration from the UK (nationality):

2008: 5773
2009: 5045
2010: 5697
2011: 5523
2012: 4664
2013: 4922
2014: 4655
2015: 4312
2016: 3902
2017: 4119
So with 3500 permits, it looks like the swiss value just over 70% of immigrant Brits. Which is nice.
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So with 3500 permits, it looks like the swiss value just over 70% of immigrant Brits. Which is nice.
interesting also that the numbers are going down. we are coming to Switzerland less.
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So with 3500 permits, it looks like the swiss value just over 70% of immigrant Brits. Which is nice.
Isn’t the 3500 permits just from April to December of this year in the case of a no deal Brexit?

If you extrapolate those numbers to cover a year that would be 4666 permits.
This would seem to be in line with the number of Brits moving here in recent years.
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Re: New Quotas for UK citizens - Brexit

I think B permits should be re-lettered to something else, like an S permit or something, for 5 years.

A "B" permit should now stand for a "Brexit" permit which is valid for two years, however you don't get to know whether it will be renewed until 5 minutes before it expires.
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I think B permits should be re-lettered to something else, like an S permit or something, for 5 years.
A "B" permit should now stand for a "Brexit" permit which is valid for two years, however you don't get to know whether it will be renewed until 5 minutes before it expires.
Permit S already exists, although interestingly not a single one has ever been issued.
You will have to select another letter.

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Immigration from the UK (nationality):

2008: 5773
2009: 5045
2010: 5697
2011: 5523
2012: 4664
2013: 4922
2014: 4655
2015: 4312
2016: 3902
2017: 4119


Emigration:

2008: 2642
2009: 2521
2010: 3501
2011: 3325
2012: 3687
2013: 3681
2014: 3783
2015: 3853
2016: 3830
2017: 3435
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So with 3500 permits, it looks like the swiss value just over 70% of immigrant Brits. Which is nice.
The 3.5k permits cover 9 months only. Plus presumably everybody who can will arrive before Brexit, so the quota may effectively need to cover the 2nd half of 2019 only.
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Rubbing my hands with glee that I can get my hands on the rest of my blasted pillar 2 instead of it sitting earning 0.1% interest in a vested benefits account.
Can you elaborate please porsch?
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The 3.5k permits cover 9 months only. Plus presumably everybody who can will arrive before Brexit, so the quota may effectively need to cover the 2nd half of 2019 only.
https://bylinetimes.com/2019/08/14/b...ghten-up-laws/

Asking for a friend (I'm Irish)..so if you are a british migrant coming here, and get a permit before the 31st all is okay?
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Asking for a friend (I'm Irish)..so if you are a british migrant coming here, and get a permit before the 31st all is okay?
It will depend on the permit they get for starters, if they don't get a permanent position, then they will get an L Permit, which may or may not be renewed when it expires...

If they get a B permit they should be OK for now and they'll probably make it to getting a C permit before any major changes happen, but no one can say for certain.
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Asking for a friend (I'm Irish)..so if you are a british migrant coming here, and get a permit before the 31st all is okay?
Up until Brexit the current rules apply, there's no change. If you have a permit before then you're in, but after Brexit new rules may apply for both newcomers and renewals.
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