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Non EU - L to B conversion : Is provisional check with Swiss authorities possible?

Dear all
I am new to this forum and this is my first post.

I am non EU and currently on L permit working in Zurich and serving my last month of allowed 2 years under L permit.

Bit more background :

My client for which I work is willing to have my services for rest of this year. So, accordingly they had asked my employer for L to B permit processing for me.
My employer initially agreed (3 months back) to do so and even said they don't see any major hurdle with the conversion, and I I could get my B permit easily (based on my skill sets,education, experience).

Twist to the story :
As of this date, my employer has not filled for my L to B conversion case(my current L permit will expire in next 30 days). When I tried to check the details then I understand that our immigration team is not 100% sure if my B permit will be approved by authorities if they file for it(I am Not exactly sure about the reason about it). My employer is saying if they directly go ahead and file for my permit and if it get rejected then my employer will lose that from fixed quota they get for LtoB.
So what my employer is saying, there is possibility to do the provisional/preliminary check with Swiss authorities(by providing very basic documents of my case ex my CV, contract etc), and currently they are doing it and awaiting response from Swiss authorities. And once they get green signal from authorities they will file my full case. This way my employer will not lose the B quota they get.

Questions :
Q1(Important) - Is there really any possibility to do such provisional/preliminary check with Swiss authorities? Does anyone have any prior experience in this regard, and is this really true? If yes kindly provide more details.

Q2(Just for my understanding) - Though my employer is saying that they get fix number of quotas for L to B conversions? Based on my reading so far, I understand there are fix number of quotas announced per year(for instance it is 4500 B permit in 2019) which is then divided into various cantons. Is this further get divided into various companies?? I can imagine this to work as first come first serve basis whoever files for the case first will get it. Thanks for clarifying.

Many thanks and best regards.
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Old 24.02.2019, 09:33
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Re: Non EU - L to B conversion : Is provisional check with Swiss authorities possible

Not sure anyone can clarify it for you.

1. Maybe

2. Possibly.

1. It may just depend on which company you're working for atm. The big names may be able to do a sort of preliminary check to see if an application would be successful or not. That said, if they were that unsure about it I would have expected them to start checking some months ago, not 30 days before your permit expires.

2. Again may depend on the company and the canton. Big name companies may get assurances that they'd have so many conversions possible from the canton, but I've never heard that's the case.

The problems you are going to have if they don't get an application going is that when your current permit runs out, if there isn't an application for a new one, then you'd have to stop work I think.

Also leaving it this late to apply and then have it rejected leaves you being liable to pay extra rent since you need to give whatever termination notice is required in your rental contract - for which 30 days or less is unlikely to be long enough to avoid paying extra months rent up to the next termination date in your contract.
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Re: Non EU - L to B conversion : Is provisional check with Swiss authorities possible

I will post on this topic based on my personal experience (and other cases I've heard of personally). I'm non-EU as well and had a L for the first 2 years of my employment; got a B thereafter. I don't work for one of the big banks/companies in Zurich.

AFAIK, there is nothing like a specific quota for a given company. Kantons have a sharing system for the permits but not the companies. Again it could be possible to do so for the big 3 banks or another big MNC, but I've not heard anything like that at least until now. Even in that case, it should have been 3-4 months ago and not now.

I can certainly tell that there is nothing like a special form (or request) for L to B conversion. Your employer should submit all the documents to the AWA emphasising why a Swiss or EU person can't fill your position and then it's upto AWA to decide on a case-by-case basis.
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Re: Non EU - L to B conversion : Is provisional check with Swiss authorities possible

Hi Medea Fleecestealer and ksvalliappa,
Many thanks for super quick reply. Appreciate it.

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The problems you are going to have if they don't get an application going is that when your current permit runs out, if there isn't an application for a new one, then you'd have to stop work I think.
Thanks for your concern. You are right, I not only need to stop work but also leave Switzerland.

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I can certainly tell that there is nothing like a special form (or request) for L to B conversion. Your employer should submit all the documents to the AWA emphasising why a Swiss or EU person can't fill your position and then it's upto AWA to decide on a case-by-case basis.
Yes, I second you on this. My reading so far on this topic/forum say so.


Does any other forum members have any prior experience in regard to possibility of doing such provisional/preliminary check with Swiss Authorities, AWA etc(without filling the full case)? Is there any online form(link) exist which allows employer to do such checks?
Appreciate your inputs.
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