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AlexIN 23.04.2019 11:58

renewing C permit: new requirements
 
Could somebody share their real experience with renewing the C permit this year (after the new legislation on integration was enforced)?
What documents are required? Did you need to take the language test?
Vaud experience would be particularly valuable.
Thank you in advance!

roegner 23.04.2019 12:00

Re: renewing C permit: new requirements
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by AlexIN (Post 3063393)
Could somebody share their real experience with renewing the C permit this year (after the new legislation on integration was enforced)?
What documents are required? Did you need to take the language test?
Vaud experience would be particularly valuable.
Thank you in advance!


Google is your friend:


https://www.vaud-welcome.ch/-practic...sidence-permit


and more general:


https://www.ch.ch/en/renewal-overvie...idence-permit/

AlexIN 23.04.2019 12:04

Re: renewing C permit: new requirements
 
Thank you for the links.

However, I would be grateful if somebody could share their practical experience.
Thank you!

Guest 23.04.2019 12:22

Re: renewing C permit: new requirements
 
Hi,


I just did this 3 weeks ago in Kanton Aargau. No issues. (I don't speak any German).


Just got letter from Gemeinde to fill out some form. about 5 days later, letter comes for me go to Aarau for another Biometry (finger print and photo), that took all about 3 minutes. About 3 days later, new letter in the mail from Gemeinde to pick up permit.


My assumption is that at the moment they have not fully implemented the new rules, otherwise a garbage Auslander like me who can't speak German would't have gotten the C-permit renewal.

Guest 23.04.2019 13:31

Re: renewing C permit: new requirements
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by AlexIN (Post 3063406)
Thank you so much for sharing your real experience!



No worries and the only comment I'll add, is things can change and probably will. So if you do get it, and you want to stay in CH with a C, then you do your best on language and other integration.


I also will work on my language despite feelings I've had enough of CH and am thinknig of my own CHExit by that time (for varied reason not language or anything like that). But still I will invest that, and even if I leave I'll be richer in knowledge and experience right?


Good liuck!

Guest 23.04.2019 15:31

Re: renewing C permit: new requirements
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by parkadam (Post 3063405)
Hi,


I just did this 3 weeks ago in Kanton Aargau. No issues. (I don't speak any German).


Just got letter from Gemeinde to fill out some form. about 5 days later, letter comes for me go to Aarau for another Biometry (finger print and photo), that took all about 3 minutes. About 3 days later, new letter in the mail from Gemeinde to pick up permit.


My assumption is that at the moment they have not fully implemented the new rules, otherwise a garbage Auslander like me who can't speak German would't have gotten the C-permit renewal.


I think you'll find if you already have a C permit, they will renew it with no fuss, however if you have a B and want a C, you'll have to jump through some additional hoops, such as a language test.

AlexIN 23.04.2019 15:40

Quote:

Originally Posted by parkadam (Post 3063405)
Hi,

I just did this 3 weeks ago in Kanton Aargau. No issues. (I don't speak any German).

Thank you so much for sharing your real experience!

Quote:

Originally Posted by parkadam (Post 3063428)
No worries and the only comment I'll add, is things can change and probably will. So if you do get it, and you want to stay in CH with a C, then you do your best on language and other integration.

Good liuck!

Many thanks! You are absolutely right and will put extra efforts on my language skills.

Quote:

I think you'll find if you already have a C permit, they will renew it with no fuss, however if you have a B and want a C, you'll have to jump through some additional hoops, such as a language test.
Thank you for your information!

Tuborg 29.04.2019 10:09

Re: renewing C permit: new requirements
 
I live in Vaud.

I renewed my Permit C, along with that of my kids, earlier this year. The process is fairly painless.

Form through the post, get the pics taken, pay the money at the counter, hand everything in, have a brief chat with the lady at the counter and all is done. Permit through the post a month or so later.

Level of French required: a little above Bonjour in a dodgy accent. Shocked look from daughter as it was the first time she had heard me speak French in complete sentences.

My wife (non-EU) transitioned from B to C.

Same story, more or less. Except she didn't have to speak any French. She said the lady at the counter was fine with her speaking in English.

Permit through the post a month or so later.

Fairly painless, when all is said and done.

bowlie 29.04.2019 11:02

Re: renewing C permit: new requirements
 
I believe in VD, non-EU nationals also have to go to Flon, in Lausanne, for their digital data - photo, fingerprints, and signature for their credit card sized permit.

Sonnenbrand 29.04.2019 12:03

Re: renewing C permit: new requirements
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by parkadam (Post 3063405)
Hi,


I just did this 3 weeks ago in Kanton Aargau. No issues. (I don't speak any German).


Just got letter from Gemeinde to fill out some form. about 5 days later, letter comes for me go to Aarau for another Biometry (finger print and photo), that took all about 3 minutes. About 3 days later, new letter in the mail from Gemeinde to pick up permit.


My assumption is that at the moment they have not fully implemented the new rules, otherwise a garbage Auslander like me who can't speak German would't have gotten the C-permit renewal.

Thanks for your real reply. I am currently in Switzerland for about 4.5 years now, residing on the border of Aargau and Zurich, in Aargau. I have had the new 2019 integration laws on my mind lately. Currently on 5 year B-permit with a possible change to C-permit or Swiss citizenship eligibility at the 5 years point.

My worry is that, although I am not up for a "renewal" on C-permit I might have difficulties upgrading to a C or Citizenship because I am currently at about an A2 level of High-German with basic understanding of commonly used Swiss German.

I was not sure how seriously the Aargau or Federal government might look at this issue according to the new laws, etc. I am an American, so lucky for me I normally qualify for a C-permit after 5 years but the new C-permit rules for so-called "fast track C-permit" in 5 years are at A2 or B1 local language. I am not entirely sure how they will handle my case when it comes up. :confused:

roegner 29.04.2019 12:17

Re: renewing C permit: new requirements
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Sonnenbrand (Post 3064624)

I was not sure how seriously the Aargau or Federal government might look at this issue according to the new laws, etc. I am an American, so lucky for me I normally qualify for a C-permit after 5 years but the new C-permit rules for so-called "fast track C-permit" in 5 years are at A2 or B1 local language. I am not entirely sure how they will handle my case when it comes up. :confused:


You need to show a language certificate.

bowlie 29.04.2019 14:32

Re: renewing C permit: new requirements
 
Showing that you are integrated is as important. And being integrated will have improved your language.

John_H 29.04.2019 14:56

Re: renewing C permit: new requirements
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by bowlie (Post 3064662)
Showing that you are integrated is as important. And being integrated will have improved your language.

I find that quite difficult ..
Are you really supposed to join a club for the sake of it? Is it enough to never use a Migros bag when shopping at COOP to show proper integration?

3Wishes 29.04.2019 16:17

Re: renewing C permit: new requirements
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Sonnenbrand (Post 3064624)
...I was not sure how seriously the Aargau or Federal government might look at this issue according to the new laws, etc. I am an American, so lucky for me I normally qualify for a C-permit after 5 years but the new C-permit rules for so-called "fast track C-permit" in 5 years are at A2 or B1 local language. I am not entirely sure how they will handle my case when it comes up. :confused:

You're married to a Swiss, which means in theory they'll go a bit easier on you. Get an A2 certificate from one of the approved schools and you'll be fine, even with speaking in any naturalization interview. I'd apply for C permit as soon as you can, then you can take your time with naturalization if that bit has you spooked. :)

Lausannebrit 06.05.2019 10:55

Re: renewing C permit: new requirements
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by AlexIN (Post 3063398)
Thank you for the links.

However, I would be grateful if somebody could share their practical experience.
Thank you!

Canton Vaud - renewal papers received 10 April 2019 / completed and returned with photos and payment on 12 April 2019. New permits received through the post on 3 May 2019, so the whole process took 3 weeks (including the Easter break).

No language questions/skills testing involved.

gbn 06.05.2019 12:46

Re: renewing C permit: new requirements
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Lausannebrit (Post 3066114)
Canton Vaud - renewal papers received 10 April 2019 / completed and returned with photos and payment on 12 April 2019. New permits received through the post on 3 May 2019, so the whole process took 3 weeks (including the Easter break).

No language questions/skills testing involved.

To make sense of this, it would help to include
- Original citizenship of you and spouse
- "Renewal of C" vs "Upgrade B to C"

Different rules apply...

roegner 21.05.2019 10:39

Re: renewing C permit: new requirements
 
Now that was easy (C permit renewal EU):

Hand in the piece of paper they sent, a new passport picture, 65 CHF and in 2-3 weeks I will have the new C permit.

IPBlocked 24.05.2019 17:30

Re: renewing C permit: new requirements
 
UK citizen here 8 years on a B and requested a C permit. I was asked for:


Confirmation of employment
Criminal record check
confirmation that I never claimed social assistance
German A2 certificate (and only from a specific list of schools)


I was given 14 days to provide everything and couldn't do the German exam in time. A week later I got a letter to say my new B permit was available for collection.

roegner 24.05.2019 17:37

Re: renewing C permit: new requirements
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by IPBlocked (Post 3071000)
UK citizen here 8 years on a B and requested a C permit. I was asked for:


Confirmation of employment
Criminal record check
confirmation that I never claimed social assistance
German A2 certificate (and only from a specific list of schools)


I was given 14 days to provide everything and couldn't do the German exam in time. A week later I got a letter to say my new B permit was available for collection.

Not surprising as the language certificate is not a new request

Sonnenbrand 24.05.2019 17:44

Re: renewing C permit: new requirements
 
14 days seems like an awfully short amount of time to gather all of these documents requested...


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