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Family leaving Switzerland

My family ( wife + 3 kids) decide to relocate to our origin country ( NON - EU )

if i want to keep them registered in Gemeinde and i will keep their health insurance, is it possible?

i already informed the school that they are not coming back next year for school.

Our idea is to keep the permits to stay valid and they can come to visit me any time they want.

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Old 03.07.2019, 23:45
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Re: Family leaving Switzerland

If they are registered here, they must go to school here.

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Re: Family leaving Switzerland

This means they will not have their permit? how they can come here back if they want?
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This means they will not have their permit?
The permit requires that they live here.

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Re: Family leaving Switzerland

You can have visitors (family or otherwise) without them needing a permit. What length of stay are you talking about?
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Old 04.07.2019, 07:52
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This means they will not have their permit? how they can come here back if they want?
Depends on what exactly you mean by that. If just for a visit, then the same way any other tourists from their country would come. If they need a visa then they have to get a visa (not talking permit, but tourist visa to enter Switzerland for less than 90 days). If you're talking about coming back to live again at some point then you'd have to apply for family reunification all over again.

Keeping the permits isn't an option. To have those means they live/work/study in Switzerland, spend the majority of their time here and their centre of life is here. That obviously won't be the case so they'll have to deregister when they decide to leave.
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Re: Family leaving Switzerland

They can easily obtain a visa to come and visit you
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Maybe yes, maybe no. That will depend on their citizenship, which is unknown.
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Maybe yes, maybe no. That will depend on their citizenship, which is unknown.

If one of the parents are living in Switzerland and they are minors, i can't quite see how the confederation can refuse a visa !
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Re: Family leaving Switzerland

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If one of the parents are living in Switzerland and they are minors, i can't quite see how the confederation can refuse a visa !
They could do what other countries have done - if he wants to see his children - he's welcome to go and visit them!
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Re: Family leaving Switzerland

There might be some kind of compromise solution possible, if the children will be out of the country only temporarily. This could be the case if they are going to your country of origin for a term at school there, but then will return home to you in Switzerland to spend all their school holidays with you.

The key focus for the immigration department, in determining residence, is where the "centrepoint" of their lives is.
Here is a thread explaining this concept of the central point of one's life.
https://www.englishforum.ch/permits-...living-zh.html

Here is another thread, this one about another child who is registered here in Switzerland, has his permit and therefore his medical insurance here, but who is, at the moment, outside of Switzerland. His parents are getting his permit extended, bit by bit. He has special circumstances because he needs medical treatment abroad. However, an application for an extension of the permit can also be made simply on the basis of the child's doing a "semester abroad", or an "exchange year", or because the course in the other country is deemed suitable. The main point is that the immigration authorities will want you to demonstrate that it seems plausible that the children will be keeping their central point of their lives with you.
https://www.englishforum.ch/permits-...nts-minor.html

If the children are definitely leaving, and will not live with you again, and the centre point of their lives is to be shifted away from Switzerland to another country, then they will lose their permits. They will also lose their Swiss medical insurance, because that has, as a pre-requisite, residence in Switzerland.
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Maybe yes, maybe no. That will depend on their citizenship, which is unknown.
Profile says Jordania.

Don't know what that means in practice.
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Profile says Jordania.

Don't know what that means in practice.
Yes, saw that. But the family may be of different nationalities, why else would OP mention his but keep the family's private?

If a Swiss visits Jordania, the visa can be obtained at the airport so my guess is that's little more than a formality (years ago I got mine in advance, it appeared to be a trivial thing). Usually that stuff is handled likewise in the other direction.
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Re: Family leaving Switzerland

Here's another related thread
https://www.englishforum.ch/permits-...ml#post3080080
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Maybe yes, maybe no. That will depend on their citizenship, which is unknown.
They have Italian Passport so they can come without visa
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Re: Family leaving Switzerland

Then no problem. They just arrive to visit for up to ninety days. No need for permits, etc.
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Profile says Jordania.

Don't know what that means in practice.
we have 2 passports (Italian and Jordanian) except my wife she has only Jordanian
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Then no problem. They just arrive to visit for up to ninety days. No need for permits, etc.
Thank you Medea

we may do as follow:
de-register the kids from Gemeinde and school and send them to Jordan to stay with my parents and but my wife and the new born baby will remain here in Switzerland.

because we need the permit for my wife so she can travel between Jordana dn Switzerland ..what do you think?
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There might be some kind of compromise solution possible, if the children will be out of the country only temporarily. This could be the case if they are going to your country of origin for a term at school there, but then will return home to you in Switzerland to spend all their school holidays with you.

The key focus for the immigration department, in determining residence, is where the "centrepoint" of their lives is.
Here is a thread explaining this concept of the central point of one's life.
https://www.englishforum.ch/permits-...living-zh.html

Here is another thread, this one about another child who is registered here in Switzerland, has his permit and therefore his medical insurance here, but who is, at the moment, outside of Switzerland. His parents are getting his permit extended, bit by bit. He has special circumstances because he needs medical treatment abroad. However, an application for an extension of the permit can also be made simply on the basis of the child's doing a "semester abroad", or an "exchange year", or because the course in the other country is deemed suitable. The main point is that the immigration authorities will want you to demonstrate that it seems plausible that the children will be keeping their central point of their lives with you.
https://www.englishforum.ch/permits-...nts-minor.html

If the children are definitely leaving, and will not live with you again, and the centre point of their lives is to be shifted away from Switzerland to another country, then they will lose their permits. They will also lose their Swiss medical insurance, because that has, as a pre-requisite, residence in Switzerland.
they will be registered in Jordanian school and come here only in summer vacation ..or mid year vacation in December.

this means their center of life will be Jordan but my wife will spend more time here with me and she will be going every 2 months in Jordan to stay with them
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Thank you Medea

we may do as follow:
de-register the kids from Gemeinde and school and send them to Jordan to stay with my parents and but my wife and the new born baby will remain here in Switzerland.

because we need the permit for my wife so she can travel between Jordana dn Switzerland ..what do you think?
That would work, but honestly why bother? What can living in Jordan give them that they can't get here? Plus they/your wife/you will be forever going back and forth between the two countries.
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