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Leaving Switzerland temporarily and keeping permit B

Hi everyone,
Your advice on whether it is possible to work abroad for some months (UK) while maintaining my permit B would be really appreciated. According to the commune (authorities in my town), I can’t leave Switzerland temporarily with the B permit. The alternative would be to sublet my flat and keep paying my insurance… but is there a maximum number of days you could do this for taxes purposes or to be considered resident? I would like to keep the permit B to later apply to the permit C status in 2 years time.
Any advice or consideration would be really appreciated!


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Re: Leaving Switzerland temporarily and keeping permit B

A permit B cannot be put on hold, sorry. I suppose you could sublet your flat, and keep paying taxes and insurance. However I don't know how you'd easily make it work with the taxes between both countries. You have to declare your worldwide income here, and if several months of it are in the UK it's clear you're not actually resident here. Then there's the whole Brexit thing going on.
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A permit B cannot be put on hold, sorry. I suppose you could sublet your flat, and keep paying taxes and insurance. However I don't know how you'd easily make it work with the taxes between both countries. You have to declare your worldwide income here, and if several months of it are in the UK it's clear you're not actually resident here. Then there's the whole Brexit thing going on.
B permit holders generally don't get a tax return.
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Re: Leaving Switzerland temporarily and keeping permit B

Thank you for your insight!
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Re: Leaving Switzerland temporarily and keeping permit B

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B permit holders generally don't get a tax return.
Incorrect. I've always gotten a tax return in my 9 years as B Permit holder.

What happens is that some Permit B holders think (or are told) that as taxes are deducted at source they don't need to (or can't) fill out the tax declaration if they are below the legal threshold, however in fact they should, even if they've earned below the limit, as most likely he/she paid too much and is entitled for some return.
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Re: Leaving Switzerland temporarily and keeping permit B

Depends on what you mean by some months. If less than 6 no problem, if more than that then no you can't put the permit on hold. And yes, there's a minimum number of days (183 iirc) that you're supposed to be resident here to qualify as being resident.
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Depends on what you mean by some months. If less than 6 no problem, if more than that then no you can't put the permit on hold. And yes, there's a minimum number of days (183 iirc) that you're supposed to be resident here to qualify as being resident.
Yes, It would be max 6 months, but this means I do not need to announce my departure to the Administration communale? If that is the case, they told me it is not possible to be abroad and take and activity with the permit B, I would have to re-apply again and lose my continuity if I wish to come back.... Many thanks for your reply!
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Re: Leaving Switzerland temporarily and keeping permit B

You can be out of the country for a maximum of 6 months at a time. If I were you I'd break that up by having 2/3 weeks here some time before the 6 months are up. And yes, you'd need to keep the apartment and health insurance going, pay your bills, etc.
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Incorrect. I've always gotten a tax return in my 9 years as B Permit holder.
He said generally, not 'never'.

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Yes, It would be max 6 months, but this means I do not need to announce my departure to the Administration communale? If that is the case, they told me it is not possible to be abroad and take and activity with the permit B, I would have to re-apply again and lose my continuity if I wish to come back.... Many thanks for your reply!
Keep in mind this is the advice of someone on the internet.

Technically if you take a job elsewhere and live there you're not a resident here any more and you should de-register. As an EU citiizen though it's not so easy for them to keep track so long as you keep paying taxes and insurance.

Whether or not you'll get caught is another matter. If some official decides you broke the rules, it won't cut it to say "but Medea said I could!"
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Re: Leaving Switzerland temporarily and keeping permit B

The thing that determines your permit is your real domicile. For some info on this, see this thread, including the links therein to other threads, explaining the notion of "centre point of your life".
https://www.englishforum.ch/permits-...itzerland.html
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Re: Leaving Switzerland temporarily and keeping permit B

Thank you all for the kind advice!
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Re: Leaving Switzerland temporarily and keeping permit B

Also remember if you do have to fill in a Swiss tax form then you'll need to account for the income you get from abroad including giving details of the employer.
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Incorrect. I've always gotten a tax return in my 9 years as B Permit holder.
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Your income exceeds 10k a month, or you own a home, I said normally & the vast majority of B permit holders do not do a tax return.
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Re: Leaving Switzerland temporarily and keeping permit B

All your responses have been very insightful, many thanks!
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