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Renewal B permit (after Phd and postdoc) - EU citizen

Hello,
after 5 years (phd and now postdoc), at the end of August my B permit will expire, as well as my postdoc contract (I am an EU citizen). Currently I am looking for jobs outside academia, but I haven't yet found a position.
Does anybody know if there may be any issue concerning the renewal of the B permit, since I will be unemployed starting from September?
Indeed, I would consider to extend my acedmic employment only if strictly needed to renew the B permit.
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P.S. Until few months ago, all the EU citizens were entitle to receive the C permit after 5 years of work, but lately things have changed and academic jobs (phd and postdoc) are not anymore considered. Hence the B permit is renewed for other 5 years (until the person finds a job outside academia).
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Re: Renewal B permit (after Phd and postdoc) - EU citizen

I would guess under the new rules it might not be renewed and you could get a 3 month job seeker L permit instead.
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Re: Renewal B permit (after Phd and postdoc) - EU citizen

If you've been on PhD and now post-doc, are you not eligible for unemployment benefits? I thought both types of permit holders paid into the system and were eligible to receive benefits particularly if EU citizens. It's the non-EUs who have struggled to get benefits.
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Old 12.08.2019, 23:17
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Re: Renewal B permit (after Phd and postdoc) - EU citizen

It's likely your B permit will be renewed for a year, not 5 years.
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If you've been on PhD and now post-doc, are you not eligible for unemployment benefits? I thought both types of permit holders paid into the system and were eligible to receive benefits particularly if EU citizens. It's the non-EUs who have struggled to get benefits.
Yes I should be entitled, but I guess it would be difficult the claim the unemployment benefit with the L permit.
I have a colleague in a very similar situation (with the contract expiring in October instead of August) that just received the extension of the B permit for other 5 years. So the whole mechanism is very unclear to me
Moreover, I am already filling the ordinary tax declaration, I don't know whether it may also count.
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It's likely your B permit will be renewed for a year, not 5 years.

A question about the process... are you sent a letter or anything about having to renew or do you just go to your local town hall as a "walk in"?


My B permit is expiring but all is silent so I guess it's on me to renew but I haven't found any forms or details so far (Canton Zug).


Also, anyone know the latest on the B permit renewal rules about language? There is a lot of posts about language and C permits, not so much on B's...
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My B permit is expiring but all is silent so I guess it's on me to renew but I haven't found any forms or details so far (Canton Zug).


Normally you get a letter asking you to bring certain documents to renew your permit. When does it expire? That letter here comes 2 months before expiry date.
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Normally you get a letter asking you to bring certain documents to renew your permit. When does it expire? That letter here comes 2 months before expiry date.
In my case I received the letter at the beginning of July and already went to the "contrôle des habitants". When they saw that my contract was expiring exactly on the same date of the permit, they asked me to come back with additional documents (bank statement and a letter explainig what are my intensions )
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In my case I received the letter at the beginning of July and already went to the "contrôle des habitants". When they saw that my contract was expiring exactly on the same date of the permit, they asked me to come back with additional documents (bank statement and a letter explainig what are my intensions )
Why the ??? ... It's a good sign.
Provide what they ask for and a letter saying you are looking for work and want to stay. As I said, it is likely that you will get a renewal for one year until you find work.
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Re: Renewal B permit (after Phd and postdoc) - EU citizen

Hope it could be useful for anybody in the same situation, I have just received the extension of the Permis B for other 5 years.
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