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Old 15.05.2020, 14:33
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Re: On [requesting] Permit C - Lawyer?

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Also, I would like to note that I've been living in this canton for about 2 years. So, whether or not you changed a canton in the last 5 years does not seem to play a role. At least in my case.
Changing canton has no effect on the residency requirements for permit C.

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In hindsight and unfortunately in my case, the authorities did not know how to do their job properly. I really do not think it's my job to ask around and in forums and read laws in order to figure out if the authorities are genuinely answering my questions.
Yes and no. You yourself should know the law (or at least know were you could look it up), on the other hand the authorities should give correct answers as well. Unfortunately this is not always the case specially when you deal with low level clerks. Fortunately a lawyer is never mandatory and with right knowledge and good communication you can change a lot of things yourself. As you did. Good job.

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Switzerland is not a country where you normally threaten the authorities with a lawyer over administrative matters.

Normally you can assume the authorities understand the rules and implement them fairly. If you genuinely believe they made a mistake, you make an appointment and go and discuss the matter in person. Then when you are there you stick to the facts and don't get emotional or argumentative. In my experience they always take their time and listen and won't stonewall you if your grievance is genuine and you are cooperative. Remember Switzerland is a consensus-based society. A lawyer is such a no-go and to put a not too blunt point to it, the fact that you think it is a good idea won't reflect well on your level of integration.
Accessing justice means you aren't integrated? lol - I don't even know where to start with that. In any civilized country, including Switzerland you should have the access to a legal representative if the situation requires it. With the best will in the world, every government, even ones in Switzerland makes mistakes, and some people do not have the time or confidence to challenge this themselves, and require legal representation to ensure their rights are upheld. Not everyone is as smart, engaged and knowledgeable as you.

Yes, it probably is better to raise the issue informally yourself, but this is not always possible. It is not a sign of a lack of integration if you have to use a legal representative to assist you. That's just a matter of basic human rights.

Not all lawyers are specialists in litigation, but some, like myself specialise in dealing with governmental bodies. Usually these governmental bodies will prefer dealing with specialists as discussion is less emotional and more professional in nature. Basically some lawyers are there to facilitate processes and not make a scene and walk in and try and sue everyone!

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