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Good morning! My girlfriend is financially dependent on me from the beginning of our stay in Switzerland. She has permit B only to stay, not to work. I have work permit B. This year we want to renew permits. We live in Zurich. Does she need a language certificate? We are citizens of the European Union. In many documents I see that EU citizens don't need language certificates for permit B.
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Good morning! My girlfriend is financially dependent on me from the beginning of our stay in Switzerland. She has permit B only to stay, not to work. I have work permit B. This year we want to renew permits. We live in Zurich. Does she need a language certificate? We are citizens of the European Union. In many documents I see that EU citizens don't need language certificates for permit B.

Depends on the country you are from. Not all EU countries are exempt.
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Re: Language requirements for European Union citizens

We are from Poland. I read that in the case of permit B all EU countries are exempted from the language requirement.
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Re: Language requirements for European Union citizens

There are language requirements for the C permit, but I haven't seen anything about that for a B permit.
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There are language requirements for the C permit, but I haven't seen anything about that for a B permit.
There are for dependents.

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There are for dependents.

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For all dependents? I thought only under family reunification.
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Only when having a 3rd country nationality, EU-nationals have no language requirements when it comes to a B permit.

If I understand correctly The Agreement On The Free Movement Of Persons (AFMP) is the legal basis in my situation? This year there will be a referendum on this matter. If Switzerland breaks this agreement, the situation will get complicated.
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Re: Language requirements for European Union citizens

I found this document:

https://www.eda.admin.ch/dam/countri...achweis_EN.pdf

I don't see that EU citizens must know one of the Swiss languages in the case of Permit B. There is a lot sentences about third country people (non-EU) and that some countries are exempted from the language requirements for Permit C.

As Polish citizens my girlfriend and me benefits of the Agreement On The Free Movement Of Persons (AFMP) and we only need adequate finances for living. Every EU citizen can live in Switzerland as long as they have the money, not necessarily from work. My girlfriend has money from me.

I didn't found another legal basis for my situation.
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We are from Poland. I read that in the case of permit B all EU countries are exempted from the language requirement.
Only for the primary permit holder, not dependents.

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Only for the primary permit holder, not dependents.

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Can you show me the legal basis?
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Can you show me the legal basis?
https://www.eda.admin.ch/dam/countri...achweis_EN.pdf
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Good morning! My girlfriend is financially dependent on me from the beginning of our stay in Switzerland. She has permit B only to stay, not to work. I have work permit B. This year we want to renew permits. We live in Zurich. Does she need a language certificate? We are citizens of the European Union. In many documents I see that EU citizens don't need language certificates for permit B.
No requirements exist about EU citizens presenting any language certificate for B Permits. If someone asks for one, kindly request to quote the legal basis for this. Be kind but also be aware of your rights. It is hard to believe but there are Swiss civil servants not being aware of some rules.
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No requirements exist about EU citizens presenting any language certificate for B Permits. If someone asks for one, kindly request to quote the legal basis for this. Be kind but also be aware of your rights. It is hard to believe but there are Swiss civil servants not being aware of some rules.
My girlfriend thinks she should do language certificate. Regardless of the legal situation.
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Re: Language requirements for European Union citizens

Someone on one of the FB groups posted the document that the Geneva authorities published. It is in FR only.

Link: https://www.ge.ch/document/bie-exige...JSp9usw06KUM3M

The details of the countries that are exempt are on page 6.
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Good morning! My girlfriend is financially dependent on me from the beginning of our stay in Switzerland. She has permit B only to stay, not to work. I have work permit B. This year we want to renew permits. We live in Zurich. Does she need a language certificate? We are citizens of the European Union. In many documents I see that EU citizens don't need language certificates for permit B.
What I find more interesting, is how did she get a B permit to stay and not to work?... She's from an EU country. If she came in as your dependent, then perhaps... however, I technically came in as a dependent from a non-EU country and have the right to work due to marriage to EU citizen effectively making me like an EU person myself enjoying the benefits. As long as you inform the correct offices (work office, gemeinde, etc.) should not be a problem. You also should not need language certificates but is cheap enough to get them so why not? You are living here so a bit of German language would be ideal to say the least. Also, if you ever want a C permit you also need one so rather do it now then later. Two birds, one stone.
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What I find more interesting, is how did she get a B permit to stay and not to work?... She's from an EU country. If she came in as your dependent, then perhaps... however, I technically came in as a dependent from a non-EU country and have the right to work due to marriage to EU citizen effectively making me like an EU person myself enjoying the benefits. As long as you inform the correct offices (work office, gemeinde, etc.) should not be a problem. You also should not need language certificates but is cheap enough to get them so why not? You are living here so a bit of German language would be ideal to say the least. Also, if you ever want a C permit you also need one so rather do it now then later. Two birds, one stone.
Because, unless specified right at the start of the permit, all permits are residence only. She probably came here under what is called a concubine permit which is for unmarried hetreosexual couples, but depending on the OP and the cantonal authorities she may or may not be able to work if she finds a job. If the OP is also non-EU then it's unlikely she'd be allowed to work here with that permit. If EU or Swiss then maybe, but it's up to the cantonal authorities to decide.

And while you are able to work, what does it actually say on your permit if you don't have a job atm? If "sans lucrative activity" then it's just a residence permit effectively. But if you get a job and let your commune/gemeinde know you're now working a new permit would be issued that has "avec lucrative activity" on it, showing that you're now employed.
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