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Non-EU B permit

Hi all, and I’m sorry for starting a new thread on this - I’ve searched as much as I could have but unfortunately have not received one clear answer. While I hope someone here can help, I have also written to cantonal authorities who I hope will answer soon (it’s been 2 weeks since I’ve written to them!)

1. I’ve been in Geneva for about 15 months now, and have been steadily employed and paying into OASI/AHV, usual salary deduction, etc.
2. I am a Non-EU passport holder with a B permit currently valid till 31.10.2020, with the below verbatim in French mentioned on the back of the permit
“Une activite independante est soumis à autorisation
Changement d’employeur soumis à autorisation“

What I want to know is

1. I plan to get married in the next year or so - does this mean that my wife will get the same permit as I do? With the same validity? I understand she would be eligible to work On this permit - but what about studies?

2. If I was to get laid off - how would unemployment work? I understand that I am eligible for unemployment income but does this mean my permit would get extended automatically till I am eligible to receive unemployment?

3. How would it work if I choose to leave my job voluntarily? Would I still be eligible for unemployment albeit a shorter period or lesser income? Would my permit validity continue and then get extended automatically?

4. Am I free to search and apply for jobs in the rest of Switzerland? Will my new employer have to apply for a new permit or will my existing permit continue?

Thanks all!
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Old 04.02.2020, 18:11
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Re: Non-EU B permit

1- wife gets the same permit type (B) with same validity. Her permit does not depends on what she does, either study or work, her permit authorization depends on your income. Your income must be above the minimum to sustain two adults, this amount depends on the canton. Ask them.

2- no idea.

3- if you quit your job voluntarily, I think you have to wait a few months before getting any unemployment benefits.

4- permits are a cantonal issue, moving to another canton is practically getting a new permit.

Also, look at the bottom of the page "Similar threads".
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Re: Non-EU B permit

Thanks Axa!

Similar threads weren't quite helpful for my specific issues.

regarding point 4., what if I look for a job in Geneva canton itself? does this mean that I can continue on my current work permit?
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Re: Non-EU B permit

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2. If I was to get laid off - how would unemployment work? I understand that I am eligible for unemployment income but does this mean my permit would get extended automatically till I am eligible to receive unemployment?
The "Changement d’employeur soumis à autorisation" on your permit means that your permission to work is tied to your employer and changing employers requires the new employer to essentially go through the non-EU hiring process as if you were not already living in Switzerland.
Under this circumstances it might happen that you'll be asked to leave Switzerland by the immigration authorities despite being technically eligible for unemployment benefits because you are not freely employable in Switzerland.

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4. Am I free to search and apply for jobs in the rest of Switzerland? Will my new employer have to apply for a new permit or will my existing permit continue?
As described above, the new employer would have to apply for a new permit and get the same approvals as if you never moved here.
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Re: Non-EU B permit

As Non-EU you are eligible for unemployment (chomage) benefits if you have a valid permit.

The moment you quit or lose your job, you also forfeit your permit. Your permit will not be renewed unless you have a job, not for employment benefits. Sounds unfair, it is!
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As Non-EU you are eligible for unemployment (chomage) benefits if you have a valid permit.
And if you've worked here for a certain amount of time, no?
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Re: Non-EU B permit

If you have lost your job and are entitled to chômage, you get to stay in Switzerland for as long as you are receiving the payments. You do not forfeit your permit and you will not be asked to leave the country.

I've experienced this personally in Vaud back in the day. My B permit was simply changed and listed the 'caisse de chômage' as my employer.
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